Something super is coming...

Illuminist · 12 Jun 2019 at 21:48

Troezar said:
Looks like AMD are in big trouble, especially at the current pricing. I can see me just going Nvidia again and I really don't want to. If AMD have an ace up their sleeve now's the time to play it.

I feel like you do, exactly.

Grim5 said:
Exactly

At the top end, all they can do for the 2080ti is give it the chip from the Titan RTX and the faster 16gbps memory and clock it slightly higher by throwing 50w at it.
All in all, the difference won't be massive 15-20% MAX

7nm is where the real gains will be made, 7nm is where I'm looking at to find my 4k 120hz GPU

I'm stuck at 4k 60hz for now and the 2080ti blazes everything at this framerate

They are making an entirely new chip for the 2080ti super it is said, it will be unlocked for AIB partners to create whatever super monsters they want

Grim5 · 12 Jun 2019 at 21:59

They can say "new" all they want, but it's still the same architecture

Illuminist · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:00

Grim5 said:
They can say "new" all they want, but it's still the same architecture

Of course but a new chip with different, higher core or shader counts, whatever they are called on nvidia

Chrisc · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:02

Troezar said:
The gauntlet has been thrown down but it's a bit of a one sided fight it seems.

Definitely, I get the feeling Nvidia are just toying with AMD

Grim5 · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:05

Chrisc said:
Definitely, I get the feeling Nvidia are just toying with AMD

Well we knew they could months ago. I knew this when I saw the efficiency graphs. I mentioned this yesterday in the Navi thread - your high end GPU is usually one of the worst performance per watt cards. But Turing bucked this trend - the 2080ti and Titan RTX is the highest performance per watt card in the Turing line up. This tells us they are still under the design's intended efficiency curve.

tl:dr Nvidia was always holding back with Turing, they never delivered what the cards are really capable of

Illuminist · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:05

Amd threw the gauntlet down with navi, so nvidia rolled in with a tank

muon · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:14

Nvidia basically moved everything up a tier for the Turing launch (hence no better perf/$ vs Pascal), screwing everyone over. Now they are going back half a tier and people are celebrating.

tyler_jrb · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:16

Gregster said:
No interest from me. Even if it gave 30% + more performance and cheaper. 7nm is where I will be watching or even next gen console with M+KB support

Agreed that's all im waiting for 3080Ti or whatever will be my next card. I could probably get a long quite nicely with a 1080Ti to be perfectly honest but my current 2080Ti gives a decent amount of headroom and is plenty fast enough for everything i throw at it there's just not THAT much at the minute i can warrant a slightly faster card for game wise.

Grim5 · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:17

Well AMD is going to have to do price cuts on it's Navi cards asap

Illuminist · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:17

tyler_jrb said:
Agreed that's all im waiting for 3080Ti or whatever will be my next card. I could probably get a long quite nicely with a 1080Ti to be perfectly honest but my current 2080Ti gives a decent amount of headroom and is plenty fast enough for everything i throw at it there's just not THAT much at the minute i can warrant a slightly faster card for game wise.

Maybe the Rtx performance will be much better

tyler_jrb · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:19

Illuminist said:
Maybe the Rtx performance will be much better

Depends how much better i guess. If it could manage RTX with minimal fps loss then that would tempt me but otherwise not too bothered.

Illuminist · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:19

If they sell the 2080 super at around £700 and it is indeed the stock 2080ti chip with no overclock, then that is actually great for all involved

nzaptx · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:25

Oh damn, the 2060 was a bit of let down still having 6gb vram, the Super version looks like what it should have been in the first place, hopefully the rumors are true, which would make it a good time for an upgrade with the Ryzen 3000's.

opethdisciple · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:31

I'm hoping for price cuts on the 2080ti.

JonnyG1982 · 12 Jun 2019 at 22:58

muon said:
Nvidia basically moved everything up a tier for the Turing launch (hence no better perf/$ vs Pascal), screwing everyone over. Now they are going back half a tier and people are celebrating.

Its a bit like that. Whole gpu market is a mess right now and has been 2 years.

HeX · 12 Jun 2019 at 23:35

I just want all this stuff announced so I can finally make an informed decision on what to buy!

Apone70 · 12 Jun 2019 at 23:49

HeX said:
I just want all this stuff announced so I can finally make an informed decision on what to buy!

yup, in 9 days we should know

Scougar · 12 Jun 2019 at 23:53

Both companies got greedy tbh. Crypto helped push the idea that cards are expensive... And Halo products like the titan followed by the Ti version that was very close in perf made people believe they were getting bargains for the money. Smart play.

Grim5 · 13 Jun 2019 at 00:05

HeX said:
I just want all this stuff announced so I can finally make an informed decision on what to buy!

Wait for RTX3000 on 7nm, that's the smart play

RTX2000 Super is a two fold product - one crush Navi and two: its a cash grab before 7nm

edit: I should call it 7nm+ because Nvidia is going straight to 7nm+ with Samsung EUV

Wrinkly · 13 Jun 2019 at 00:18

kazuya1337 said:
It's more like these cards will be 2000 series with "Super" memory which won't fail nearly as much.

You never played Super Space Invaders?