Soldato
my bad, my sleepy eyes didn't see the different names. Apolgies given in profuse abundance
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** The AMD Navi Thread **
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Soldato
I'm tight on dosh, if I just slapped in a 2700X would it be worthy upgrade from a 1600 and would it propel me through games for 2-3 years?
Soldato
No worries, I am with 4h sleep also. My empire in X4 needs serious overnight work
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That slide would be decent if it showed a 5700 instead...
Caporegime
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No, you're best spending it on GPU powaaaaaa.
Soldato
I wish I could do that sort of thing, I have a 3 month old who kept me up until 3:30am and then got up at 5:30 for work I gotta be careful to not make mistakes like that here :/No worries, I am with 4h sleep also. My empire in X4 needs serious overnight work
Soldato
From the CPU side of things though, as in will the 2700X struggle in that time.
so, i assume AMD will be releasing a more powerful Navi derived chip to compete with 2080, 2080ti sometime this year or early next year, but extrapolating performance numbers linearly with power output, i just dont see how navi can compete with upcoming AMPRE from Nvidia, specially if nvidia stick to their 35-40% improvement cycles. To me Navi is not good enough yet, better than VEGA but still lagging. I could be wrong.
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They'll release it against the 3080, it'll be slightly slower and slightly more money
AMD have suggested Q1/Q2 next year for navi 20 which will be bigger cores.
Nvidia is looking at Maybe Q2 next year for Ampere built on Samsung's EUV 7nm+ node, which in itself is already about 30% faster than TSMC DUV 7nm node. It is expected AMD will stick with the current DUV 7nm fro TSMC.
Nvidia will be looking at 50-60% performance increase purely from going to the 7nm+, regardless of any architecture changes. Given the icnreased transistor densiy they could easily increase ray-tracing performance by 2 xto 3x.
At the end of the day AMD's new architecture on 7nm is still much less efficient than Turing on 12/16nm. By releasing on 7nm AMD have reduced the efficiency difference a little but they.
Wait and see what Nvidia's Super release does. It will shake up the market a little. You will either be able to get a 20% faster card for the same money from Nvidia, or AMD will be forced to lower prices.
There might also be discounts on moving the older Turing.
people on here might laugh but the main game i need to run on my mobile and laptop rigs is...
Warhammer Total War 2.
As it stands, running this game on a 8th Gen Intel CPU and a 1080 is nowhere near my 8th gen 4.7ghz/1080ti desktop rig.
a) the laptop cost £3k
b) the laptop is so hot on my lap and the fans so bad that it is anti-social.
If that slide is correct and the AMD setup is going to be 40% faster without melting my laptop then it is a case of ‘shut up and take my money’.
Soldato
Is a fake slide from Ryzen 1 back in 2017, less likely Ryzen 2 from last year.
Soldato
Wait till you see the launch prices from Nvidia xD
And we have only just had our pants pulled down on regular RTX.
Prepare your wallets fellas.
Question: Which of these two images would you choose? Consider this similar to Navi's Image Sharpening (speculation on my part).
Exhibit A vs Exhibit B
Exhibit A vs Exhibit B
A is 4K w/ AA High, while B is 4K 80% render scale w/ AA low & Adaptive Sharpen. The performance difference between the two is 40%!!
4K 80% AA low - 61 fps
4K 80% AA low & Adaptive Sharpen - 59 fps
4K AA High - 43 fps
4K AA High & Adaptive Sharpen - 40 fps
4K 80% AA low & Adaptive Sharpen - 59 fps
4K AA High - 43 fps
4K AA High & Adaptive Sharpen - 40 fps
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Soldato
Someone that has twitter should really smack that guy down with his dis information, i can see from his replies he is treating it as a real slide
If you bothered following the news you would see that the rumours point to the new Super cards coming in at the same price point but with more performance, and the older models discounted.
It is very possible there will be a 2070ti that is similar price and 20% faster, or you could get a 2080 for the same price as a 5700xt etc.
AMD will have to reduce prices, but either way it is worth waiting to see.
Download both at 4K.
A is much sharper and B is very blurry and soft, like the screen is smeared in Vaseline. Odd because I thought the whole purpose of AMD's sharpening was to make images sharp yet it doesn't seem to work.
Sure you don't have these the wrong way round?
Eh it was a duplicate post!
I know this launch is a difficult time for you Panos but resorting to the Troll remarks so soon is beneath you.