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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
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Am I right in thinking (from the amd compatibility slides) that even the cheapest b450 in the land will be fine with the 16 core Zen2 at stock, and all this VRM chat is specific to those wanting to overclock? (fair enough given the name of this site..)
Also does anyone know if the fancy 1ms speedstep business needs chipset support, or is it all good on last gen motherboards?
Also does anyone know if the fancy 1ms speedstep business needs chipset support, or is it all good on last gen motherboards?
Soldato
Yes, for me it's the faff and time of it all just as much as the cost. X570 should be fine later down the line if buying upper tier.
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the normal board you get from say OcUK will be no wear close to that.
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Any comment on the 300 lineup ?
Any comment on the 300 lineup ?
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this was requested many generations ago, its good there doing it.
i asked over the phone one time and was told no!, i said this is a service people would pay for to know an older gen board will work with newer CPU's.
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That is supposed to be a Windows Update thing, specific to Ryzen CPUs but not limited to the latest gen.
As an aside, the Navi input-lag feature is also going to be available on the Zen+ APUs; i.e. it isn't a Navi-specific feature.
sounds like it also needs updated chipset drivers too...w10 1903 on its own doesn't do much.
Soldato
It's nothing to do with the chipset driver, that is solely for Ryzen 3xxx, the scheduler change is active already in 1903 for all Ryzen models.
it is, but it doesn't seem to give the boost that amd is claiming?
which leads me to suspect that there's something unreleased?
unless i'm just reading into it too much. lol.
Soldato
I think they presented the best case scenario for heavy workloads that were jumping between CCX's much more often that was good for the optimal performance. I'd imagine there a quite a few applications and maybe games that it will help, but maybe not to the large margin of 15% for most.
Edit: The effect that the ACPI DPR update for the CPPC2 (Collaborative Power Performance Control 2) will have a much bigger effect with Ryzen 3xxx, as the ability to raise and lower clock speed much more quickly is very important.
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The pricing on Zen 2 and mobo's is a bit disappointing if I am honest. If there are decent cheap mobo's I may go for it. I want to upgrade, but knowing I won't see much of a benefit over what I got already is put me off. Will likely wait a few months after release and see what's what then.
ah yeah...also HWU also clarified (which i missed initially):
means that the gains won't be seen for ryzen 1000/2000 chips
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You must have posted that just before/after my edit above.
"Edit: The effect that the ACPI DPR update for the CPPC2 (Collaborative Power Performance Control 2) will have a much bigger effect with Ryzen 3xxx, as the ability to raise and lower clock speed much more quickly is very important."
So the faster clock ramping is what i was talking about, and it requires a chipset driver update in addition to whatever is now in Windows? So will that driver update support Zen2 on B450?
I'm building a system for audio, and historically have always had to disable dynamic clocks as you tend to get drop outs whenever the processor shifts gears, would be lovely if I can just leave it switched on this time..
I'm building a system for audio, and historically have always had to disable dynamic clocks as you tend to get drop outs whenever the processor shifts gears, would be lovely if I can just leave it switched on this time..
who knows? no details released yet that i've seen...
Fair enough, wasn't sure if I'd missed something or if it was still ambiguous.