** The AMD Navi Thread **

[DELETED_195422]

The pricing is atrocious and the GPU market continues to be dog ****.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

Yup, til then it's just the fanboys who will be buying! There will a bit of a shortage after the initial small run of cards (due to said fanboys) then in a month or so plentiful stock and slow sales (til they fix their pricing).

Does that mean that only Nvidia fanboys are buying Nvidia cards since they're the same price?

 

[JediFragger]

Does that mean that only Nvidia fanboys are buying Nvidia cards since they're the same price?

No but it's always the same with AMD cards, an inital rush then stock is plentiful. nVidia have nothing to prove, they have the market cornered atm and in most minds are the go-to people for discrete gfx cards.

 

[Zernath]

The pricing is atrocious and the GPU market continues to be dog ****.

I had hoped that AMD would be driving prices down, but if anything they seem to be aiming for parity, which is extremely disappointing. AMD should be trying to beat Nvidia on price, which historically has been one of their few successful tactics, but this just doesn't seem to be happening.

Consumers are largely to blame though, if they keep buying overpriced products, then said products will stay overpriced.

 

[ubersonic]

Buying GPU's on launch is never a good idea.

Never say never, the Vega 56 and 64 were selling for double their launch price a couple of months later.

 

[Zernath]

Never say never, the Vega 56 and 64 were selling for double their launch price a couple of months later.

Yeah, but it's not as if mining is a big deal any more, so what excuse would they have for a further price hike this time?

 

[Scougar]

It is like they aren't taking seriously that Nvidia is by far the marker leader so is able to get that premium price. Until AMD can prove themselves again like every other market, unless they have incredible marketing, they will.need to go cheaper to get sales. Time will tell, and I am no salesman....

 

[JediFragger]

but if anything they seem to be aiming for parity

Tbf given half a chance AMD are like a rat up a drainpipe when it comes to increasing prices!!! They're all for it

 

[TNA]

The pricing is atrocious and the GPU market continues to be dog ****.

Yeah. Poor pricing on these cards. But cannot blame AMD in a way, they need the money. They just won't be getting any of mine for Navi.

 

[Illuminist]

Yeah. Poor pricing on these cards. But cannot blame AMD in a way, they need the money. They just won't be getting any of mine for Navi.

Better to sell 1000 cards at £5 profit than 100 cards at £30 profit or w/e

you know what i mean

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Better to sell 1000 cards at £5 profit than 100 cards at £30 profit or w/e

you know what i mean

How about sell 100 cards at £30 profit, cut price and sell 200 at £20 profit, cut price again sell 200 at £10 profit, cut price again sell 500 at £5 profit

AMD already have compelling EOL offerings from £100-£350. They don't have anything competitive from £350-£500. You can argue it should be faster at that price range and maybe when Navi 20 is released that will happen and this will drop in price

 

[Panos]

Can get a 2070 for under $500 on newegg. Cheapest I’ve seen here is around 470-480. Given most items tend to go for $to£ 1:1 it will be around that price for pre orders at least I suspect. The rx590 is 220 on new egg and around the same price here for the equivalent card.

I do not disagree. Wrote few pages back, that there are 3 2070s as $479. 4 between 489-500 and 25 all way to $600.
However there are 2 2070 SKUs. A and non-A, and for the "sub" $500, the is the EVGA Black, with the smaller cooler than the Ultra and lower clocks, the Mini, a blower, the Armor, and god forbid someone buys it, the Windforce. A card famous for it's high failure rate within 5 months. A nip to Newegg reviews can prove why wrote this.

The good samples of the 2070s are over $550. Similarly to the UK. The good ones are over £500.

 

[Illuminist]

I do not disagree. Wrote few pages back, that there are 3 2070s as $479. 4 between 489-500 and 25 all way to $600.
However there are 2 2070 SKUs. A and non-A, and for the "sub" $500, the is the EVGA Black, with the smaller cooler than the Ultra and lower clocks, the Mini, a blower, the Armor, and god forbid someone buys it, the Windforce. A card famous for it's high failure rate within 5 months. A nip to Newegg reviews can prove why wrote this.

The good samples of the 2070s are over $550. Similarly to the UK. The good ones are over £500.

What are palit like, I was eyeing up the game rock, its an a chip and one of the cheaper ones, good custom pcb and vrms too

 

[TNA]

Better to sell 1000 cards at £5 profit than 100 cards at £30 profit or w/e

you know what i mean

Yeah, but they are taking a page out of Nvidia's book with what they do with the Titan series. Price it high and milk the die hard fans who will buy regardless, then when sales start to slow down reduce price (nvidia just remove 1gb and call it 1080Ti etc).

When picking up my 4K G-Sync monitor a couple years ago I knew AMD would not be in the top end game for many years and even when they are they will charge like Nvidia.

 

[Darujhistan]

Never say never, the Vega 56 and 64 were selling for double their launch price a couple of months later.

True, and there's always exceptions, but I'd still never buy on day 1.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

It seems that AMD are fighting a loosing battle with pricing. AMD used to be known as a low cost brand and people associate low cost with low quality. I used to read so many ill informed comments with negativity towards AMD because of this.

 

[Davedree]

It seems that AMD are fighting a loosing battle with pricing. AMD used to be known as a low cost brand and people associate low cost with low quality. I used to read so many ill informed comments with negativity towards AMD because of this.

How's that £220 Gtx1660 equivalent Navi coming along?

 

[humbug]

Good video. and i agree with him, there will be no "Big Navi" to compete with the RTX 2080TI, AMD simply don't sell enough GPU's at the top end to justify it.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

How's that £220 Gtx1660 equivalent Navi coming along?

Yeah I dont understand why they weren't announced. I'll probably buy a used 1070 for £185 anyway.

 

[Davedree]

Yeah I dont understand why they weren't announced

I'm guessing the 7nm process is too expensive for the lower tier cards? So maybe they'll use 12nm for a stopgap on lower performance cards ? Even so I just don't get Amd's half arse attitude. They need low,mid, high (2080/+) and to dual purpose these chips for mobile and desktop.

But are incredibly quiet on any future gpu info.