Core i5 4400 upgrade?

TheLegendOfMart · 15 Jun 2019 at 15:45

My PC is pretty old now. I just bunged an RX570 in and Fallout 76, Rage 2, and a few other games are chugging. The GPU usage is never fully utilised even though the CPU is being pegged at 100% which I guess means my CPU is a bottleneck.

I have:

Core i5 4440
8GB DDR3 2133 but can only run at 1600 in the board I have
Gigabyte H87M-HD3 M-ATX Board
Corsair 600W PSU

I know the best course will be to just upgrade to Ryzen but that means having to shell out at least £350 on a CPU, Board, Ram and CPU Cooler.

I plan on buying 16GB of ram since it is dirt cheap 2nd hand now but I don't know what to do with CPU.

Would there be much difference between a 4770K and 4790K if I overlock?

At stock the 4770k is 25% faster than my 4440 so its a decent bump as well as hyperthreading.

The 4790K goes for around £150, the 4770K around £100. I could also get the 4790 non K for £120.

Part of the reason I don't want to buy basically a whole new PC is I am trying to stick it out till PS5 comes.

jigger · 15 Jun 2019 at 15:53

You can't overclock with a H87 board and I'm not sure I would be upgrading to 16Gb of 1600Mhz of DDR3 and pairing it with a DC i7.

TheLegendOfMart · 15 Jun 2019 at 15:58

I can adjust 'cpu clock ratio' on my board. I set it to 33x for a little CPU boost on my non overclockable CPU and it runs fine at 3.3Ghz.

I know its not an 'upgrade' but its £150 vs £350. I'm not expecting Ultra graphics and 144fps+ I just want it to hold out a little longer.

easyrider · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:00

I would sell it what you have and put the funds towards

Get a B450 £75
Ryzen 2600 £100
16gb DDR 4 £75

The 4790k is a decent chip but it’s a lot of money for a 4/8 cpu

When you can buy a 6/12 ryzen for less...

It won’t cost you 350 after you sell your old mobo combo.

TheLegendOfMart · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:00

Yes I know the best upgrade is Ryzen. I don't want to spend that kind of money...

Where are 2600s £100, I only see them for £170...

easyrider · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:02

TheLegendOfMart said:
Yes I know the best upgrade is Ryzen. I don't want to spend that kind of money...

You’ll get money for your old chip mobo and ram to offset the cost.

TheLegendOfMart · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:04

They aren't worth that much. £20 for Ram and £25 for CPU if I'm lucky.

easyrider · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:22

TheLegendOfMart said:
They aren't worth that much. £20 for Ram and £25 for CPU if I'm lucky.

That’s 45 then you mobo 20 that 65 towards it...

TheLegendOfMart · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:27

I can get a 1600X which is around 2600 performance, a B450 Mobo and some used DDR4 3000 Ram for around £220-250. Would that be better?

I at least then have the option for a Ryzen 3000, without PCI-E 4.0 support, in the future?

easyrider · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:29

TheLegendOfMart said:
I can get a 1600X which is around 2600 performance, a B450 Mobo and some used DDR4 3000 Ram for around £220-250. Would that be better?

I at least then have the option for a Ryzen 3000, without PCI-E 4.0 support, in the future?

Yes mate..or new something like this below.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x "Recon RY2" AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.40GHz Value Gaming Bundle = £339.95
- Memory:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G2400

Total: £350.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)

TheLegendOfMart · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:30

I need more than 8GB. Fallout 76 maxes out 8GB in areas.

easyrider · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:32

TheLegendOfMart said:
I need more than 8GB. Fallout 76 maxes out 8GB in areas.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x "Recon RY2" AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.40GHz Value Gaming Bundle = £365.95
- Memory:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G24

Total: £376.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)

Now is the time to buy used...there will loads of 1600x 1700x 2600 2700 used ryzens in the next couple of weeks...as people upgrade to zen 3000

I’ll be selling my 2600 myself very shortly

morguk · 15 Jun 2019 at 16:44

I upgraded from a 4460 to a 4970s recently and it has made night and day difference on BFV.

Morfinel · 17 Jun 2019 at 19:24

Price of 2600 just dropped to £130 but not on OCUK, and DDR4 16GB £64 from Teamgroup, even cheap B450 are very good.

LukieBoy007 · 17 Jun 2019 at 20:39

Ryzen 2600 ~ £130
16GB DDR4 3000MHz RAM ~ £70
MSI Tomahawk B450 ~ £90

Total of £290, will be a great upgrade and allows for a 3000 series CPU to be dropped in at a later date if need be. This is the route I'll be taking soon.

Quartz · 18 Jun 2019 at 22:29

easyrider said:
That’s 45 then you mobo 20 that 65 towards it...

Don't forget the cost of selling.

Alan1969 said:
I don't think that you should waste £150 and rather you should just bite the bullet and spend £350 on a new ryzen 3600 system. That will be by far superior.

I agree.

tamzzy · 18 Jun 2019 at 23:04

TheLegendOfMart said:
Yes I know the best upgrade is Ryzen. I don't want to spend that kind of money...

penny wise, pound foolish springs to mind

TheLegendOfMart · 19 Jun 2019 at 06:50

tamzzy said:
penny wise, pound foolish springs to mind

Yeah and only an idiot would waste £350 on a PC he barely uses and just wants to make do till PS5 comes out...

Ezyryder · 19 Jun 2019 at 12:40

TheLegendOfMart said:
Yeah and only an idiot would waste £350 on a PC he barely uses and just wants to make do till PS5 comes out...

I don't see it as money wasted, you still have 18 months to wait for PS5 which is a long time. And at the end of that period you can sell your parts to fund the console, if that is what you want.