AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Scramz]

Someone also said the same source had a 197 point single core.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c4lpc8/new_r5_3600_scores/

 

[humbug]

Will my Asrock B450m Pro need a Bios update to use the 3400G

Yes

 

[humbug]

Similar performance to a 9700K, nice...

 

[chippy08]

Yes

Thats going to be a pain as its still sitting in its Box and i have no cpu to update it with.

 

[emodan]

Thats going to be a pain as its still sitting in its Box and i have no cpu to update it with.

The 3400G is just a slightly refreshed 2400G so not worth getting over the 2400g especially on how low they go for now.

 

[pcfarrar]

That Portuguese listing as per guru3d in case anyone missed it:

Ryzen 3000 Cores / Threads Frequencies Recommended retail price Euro
Ryzen 3 3200G 4/4 3.6 - 4.0 GHz $ 99 € 108.90
Ryzen 5 3400G 4/8 3.7 - 4.2 GHz $ 149 € 163.90
Ryzen 5 3600 6/12 3.6 - 4.2 GHz $ 199 € 218.90
Ryzen 5 3600X 6/12 3.8 - 4.4 GHz $ 249 € 273.90
Ryzen 7 3700X 8/16 3.6 - 4.5 GHz $ 329 € 361.90
Ryzen 7 3800X 8/16 3.9 - 4.5 GHz $ 399 € 438.90
Ryzen 9 3900X 12/24 3.8 - 4.6 GHz $ 499 € 548.90

The UK prices are listed at some re-sellers now (all prices inc. VAT)

AMD Ryzen 5 3400G @ £151.44
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 @ £198.95
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X @ £245.41
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X @ £320.90
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X @ £382.52

 

[Mr_Sukebe]

The UK prices are listed at some re-sellers now (all prices inc. VAT)

AMD Ryzen 5 3400G @ £151.44
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 @ £198.95
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X @ £245.41
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X @ £320.90
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X @ £382.52

Correct me if I'm wrong, but those look like fairly similar prices to the Intel equivalent.
All these months of hype, and there's that little difference in cost? Gotta laugh.

 

[awaybreaktoday]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but those look like fairly similar prices to the Intel equivalent.
All these months of hype, and there's that little difference in cost? Gotta laugh.

????

9900K is 440 - 500 notes.... big gap to the 3800x 3700x prices...

 

[Scramz]

Someone also said the same source had a 197 point single core.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c4lpc8/new_r5_3600_scores/

At 4.2Ghz. 3600.

 

[Robert896r1]

I don't know enough about AMD chips but if 1.308v a lot or no for that level of OC?

 

[RavenXXX2]

Deffo bagging the 3600 and overclock it.

 

[robfosters]

????

9900K is 440 - 500 notes.... big gap to the 3800x 3700x prices...

I thought the 3900X was the 9900K competitor?

 

[Scramz]

I don't know enough about AMD chips but if 1.308v a lot or no for that level of OC?

The drop off point on first gen Ryzen was about 1.45v so 1.30v is conservative but no one knows yet with the new 7nm chips.

 

[Scramz]

I thought the 3900X was the 9900K competitor?

It is on price, but you are getting more cores etc, like for like competitor is the 3700x-3800x at equal cores/threads and about the same performance at a lower price point.

 

[robfosters]

If the 3900 weighs in around £450 or less, I’m gonna be sorely tempted.

 

[chippy08]

The 3400G is just a slightly refreshed 2400G so not worth getting over the 2400g especially on how low they go for now.

Now im a bit stuck at knowing which way to go, if its true that the Ryzen 5 2600 is going to drop to to less than £100 do i get a the Ryzen 5 2600 and a cheap video card or just get the APU as planned.

Surely the Ryzen 5 2600 is going to be much more powerfull than the 2400g and with me being a none game player i dont need powerfull graphics

 

[emodan]

Now im a bit stuck at knowing which way to go, if its true that the Ryzen 5 2600 is going to drop to to less than £100 do i get a the Ryzen 5 2600 and a cheap video card or just get the APU as planned.

Surely the Ryzen 5 2600 is going to be much more powerfull than the 2400g and with me being a none game player i dont need powerfull graphics

If you don't game then I would go for the Ryzen 5 1600 which is likely to drop even further and pick up a discrete GPU like the GT 1030.

 

[Plec]

Now im a bit stuck at knowing which way to go, if its true that the Ryzen 5 2600 is going to drop to to less than £100 do i get a the Ryzen 5 2600 and a cheap video card or just get the APU as planned.

Surely the Ryzen 5 2600 is going to be much more powerfull than the 2400g and with me being a none game player i dont need powerfull graphics

Could you make use of the extra cores and more system memory (thinking of the future too)?

If so, 2600 and a discrete/passive GPU.

 

[Robert896r1]

The iGPU actually acts as a heat sync because it's a cold part of the silicon that the heat from the cores can leak into, removing it to replace it with another two hot cores will just increase the thermal density.

Then there's the added power consumption, taking the 9900K to 250 Watt's, add that to the increased thermal density and you have more of a problem.

I do think it's possible they can squeeze a bit more and even spread out a bit to reduce the thermal density. If you look at this die reference, you can see massive the igpu actually is. And while it can semi perform heat spread duties, it's not ideal due to its placement.

750px-coffee_lake_die_(octa_core)_(annotated).png

I still don't think there's an engineering commitment that's worth it for a low volume part even if they could.

 

[Mensy]

The UK prices are listed at some re-sellers now (all prices inc. VAT)

AMD Ryzen 5 3400G @ £151.44
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 @ £198.95
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X @ £245.41
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X @ £320.90
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X @ £382.52

They seem to be a touch on the higher side was hoping the 3600x £229 and 3700x £279