So we agree 'austerity' isn't the issue then or are you just trying to be awkward?
No.
It's probably the major issue, but to say it's the only issue would be stupid.
So we agree 'austerity' isn't the issue then or are you just trying to be awkward?
Austerity in health is real, even 7% of GDP lags well behind the average in the EU. Your numbers differ from kingsfund figures:
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/2...nding-compare-health-spending-internationally
A decline in spending since 2009 as a percentage of GDP.
Demand is outstripping growth in the NHS. That's neither lazy or incorrect. Demand will not stop increasing, yet the brakes have been well and truly on when it comes to spending. You can see the effects on this on a daily basis.
Over the next few years spending on the NHS increased substantially, pushing total (public plus private) spending to 8.8 per cent of GDP by 2009.
you are seemingly unable to read your own links
And then what happened after 2009? UK health spending decreased, pushing us well behind the EU average.
From before the finial crash in 2007 to the latest figures UK spending for health has gone up as a percentage of GDP, as an overall figure and per head in advance of inflation with has averaged a bit under 3% per annum in that period (CPI) 61.319 billion in 2007 £'s would be 83.575 billion in 2018 £'s adjusted for inflation.
2007 - health spending 6.74% of GDP
Population - 61.319 million
Total spending - 94.69 billion
2018 7.06% of GDP
Population - 66.466 million
Total spending 145.81billion
I think you've got your sums slightly wrong there — you cite 61.319 billion in 2007 but 61.319 is the population figure in million.
The total spend of £94.69Bn adjusted for inflation would equate to roughly £129bn — so you're right in the sense that spending has been slightly above inflation (let's call it £17Bn over 11 years or £1.5Bn per year — in the grand scheme of things of the NHS budget that's not a huge increase.
I'm not suggesting your other points aren't valid, just correcting that point.
read my additions picking On 2009 as a reference year for such matters is either to be ignorant or to be deliberately disengenious about what was going on at the time.
2009 was the peak of health spending. All of the EU dropped spending after that in the wake of the crisis.
We have dropped significantly more, taking us away from the EU average further.
No, I think its the management of the NHS from top to bottom is a issue, for example medication can be a big issue, example who need to give it you, the hospital, your GP, the specialist department, home delivery service ? I dont know how many time I've seen them argue who need to give them.So we agree 'austerity' isn't the issue then or are you just trying to be awkward?
Our GP seam to have 11095 patients if they cant handle them they should improve or be forced to reduce the number of patients and funding for the extras
Sounds very like my GP. Over-subscribed and when I am in there its always full of entitled coffin dodgers hogging the appointments and whinging if they're running 5 minutes late (probably a local thing, same in other places too round here). Where ours does seem better than yours:
- Repeat prescriptions are easy. Drop the form in at chemists, collect a few days later.
- Nurse appointments for on-going treatments usually easy to get (Asthma, blood pressure, diabetes etc). Just don't phone before about 10:30 as its still under the DOS attack describe above.
- They are trying to triage appointments, so you'll get a call back from Doctor or Nurse to discuss in more detail.
- There are out of hours options happening. It used to be 8:30 to 4:30 and tough luck to anyone in a job getting a sensible time.
- They will prioritise child appointments. It was always a very noticeable shift in tone when the girls were younger and we needed to see someone.
I think that's one of the main problems, you cant take care of the ones you have and are forced to take on more and more, so no one gets any real care,usually the opposite is the case, most GPs are forced to keep their books open and take on new patients
If this is Westminster Surgery I understand
I've not been living in Little Sutton long, so I'm about to move surgery, god help me!Great Sutton, but still the same demographic of crusties
Well it better then going on the right day and getting told we dont have a open surgery anymore. this happen to a family member a few years ago.open surgerys here, you go in and wait for a doctor ,my biggest problem is turning up on the wrong day like a numpty
Ive had that happen, Ive also had them take down to me ignore the prescription, had to chase them up a few time for one prescription ect, but its only happened at lloyds pharmacy but we got lucky when a independent pharmacy open up next door to them.Bit off topic, but chemists are getting worse. I go into the local one round here and the staff are stood there writing things up or putting stock away, they look up and notice you, but make no effort to serve you, just carry on with what they are doing and leave you stood there.
Happened last Saturday, after waiting a couple of minutes I said to the guy who was stood 6 foot away but completely ignoring me if i could get my prescription please, he just looked at me and said “I’m busy”
I found boots much better then lloyds they can be a little slow but no real issues I would rather go to them but it really depend on the pharmacy.^^ Boots used to to rubbish around here so I just swapped to an independent chemist and the service is far better