What does this entry in an asbestos report mean?

Angilion · 30 Jun 2019 at 01:17

I was thumbing through an asbestos management plan recently (not exactly the most interesting reading material) and an entry for a particular room in a large building interested me:

St Pres 30 NAD

I'm tentatively assuming that "St Pres 30" is an abbreviated description of the testing done on the potentially asbestos containing material (a textured ceiling coating) and that NAD is an abbreviation for "No Asbestos Discovered", but I don't know and haven't been able to find out. So I turned to the font of all knowledge, GD.

I can confirm that the room does not have a letterbox, is not a shop and is not the abode of a queen bee

Destination · 30 Jun 2019 at 01:37

Medically nad means nothing abnormal discovered, no clue if it is the same.

Rroff · 30 Jun 2019 at 01:43

Oh man the things you read on OcUK...

I guess it is as good as any place to ask for what is relatively esoteric.

gronf · 30 Jun 2019 at 02:06

St Pres 30 = Saint Preston the 30th, patron saint of asbestos. You better pray.

Dis86 · 30 Jun 2019 at 09:02

@Angillon are you able to mail a photo of the page to me via trust?
NAD should be no asbestos discovered.

mjt · 30 Jun 2019 at 09:32

Is this what you do at 1 in the morning? Were the pages all sticky as well?

Adam_151 · 30 Jun 2019 at 12:21

Said said NAD is No asbestos detected. i.e. a sample has been tested and found to notto contain asbestos. The St Pres 30 will be the sample in question, it either refers to something in the room, or is a corruption of something, the 30 bit is likely to be the sample number but as for St Pres ??
There is usually a site plan showing where each sample was taken, so that should give you a clue

Angilion · 1 Jul 2019 at 00:40

Dis86 said:
@Angillon are you able to mail a photo of the page to me via trust?
NAD should be no asbestos discovered.

Probably not without a fair bit of fuss. It's not my report and, bizarrely for this day and age, I don't have a camera. I would have to ask permission and things get formal when it comes to hazardous materials reports on a business premises. Besides, there was no other information regarding that specific location apart from a photograph of the room and a description of its location within the building (neither of which would be of any use to you). Textured coating on walls and ceiling, St Pres 30 NAD. Oh, and a score of zero with no recommended action. Which is what led me to think that NAD is probably "no asbestos detected".

mjt said:
Is this what you do at 1 in the morning? Were the pages all sticky as well?

Shiftwork tends to skew your sense of daily time. 1 in the morning is shortly after I've got home and had a shower and sat down, so it's early evening to me. Like now, for example. I was in the shower 10 minutes ago. As for adding a "sample" to the report on samples, that would be bad manners

Adam_151 said:
Said said NAD is No asbestos detected. i.e. a sample has been tested and found to notto contain asbestos. The St Pres 30 will be the sample in question, it either refers to something in the room, or is a corruption of something, the 30 bit is likely to be the sample number but as for St Pres ??
There is usually a site plan showing where each sample was taken, so that should give you a clue

The site plan I saw gives only a location, i.e. a room or corridor or ceiling space, not a specific location of each sample. It's a summary report, which is still about a hundred pages. It's a large premises and the work was extremely thorough. They were poring over everything for weeks, with sealed areas, pressure differences to control possible movement of anything airborne, the whole nine yards. They took more samples than an STD clinic

mjt · 1 Jul 2019 at 08:34

Angilion said:
Shiftwork tends to skew your sense of daily time. 1 in the morning is shortly after I've got home and had a shower and sat down, so it's early evening to me. Like now, for example. I was in the shower 10 minutes ago. As for adding a "sample" to the report on samples, that would be bad manners

Lord-Jaffa · 6 Jul 2019 at 21:22

Angilion said:
Probably not without a fair bit of fuss. It's not my report and, bizarrely for this day and age, I don't have a camera. I would have to ask permission and things get formal when it comes to hazardous materials reports on a business premises. Besides, there was no other information regarding that specific location apart from a photograph of the room and a description of its location within the building (neither of which would be of any use to you). Textured coating on walls and ceiling, St Pres 30 NAD. Oh, and a score of zero with no recommended action. Which is what led me to think that NAD is probably "no asbestos detected".

Shiftwork tends to skew your sense of daily time. 1 in the morning is shortly after I've got home and had a shower and sat down, so it's early evening to me. Like now, for example. I was in the shower 10 minutes ago. As for adding a "sample" to the report on samples, that would be bad manners

The site plan I saw gives only a location, i.e. a room or corridor or ceiling space, not a specific location of each sample. It's a summary report, which is still about a hundred pages. It's a large premises and the work was extremely thorough. They were poring over everything for weeks, with sealed areas, pressure differences to control possible movement of anything airborne, the whole nine yards. They took more samples than an STD clinic

The textured coating was sampled and the result is negative is all it means. You should be able to request the asbestos register for any building you work in.