Caporegime
So why go for 3800x over 3700x?
All depends on clocking really.
If I end up buying a 2070 Super and 3700X on Tuesday I'd be surprised. But it'll also work out at maybe £750.
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So why go for 3800x over 3700x?
So why go for 3800x over 3700x?
The 2070 Super is a great spot, especially if you could get a game or two and sell on for additional money off after. Im not so sure its a great leap from a vega64 but you can recoup a whack if you sell that on so makes sense.
You make fair points and I guess my thinking was coming from previous card prices. I thought they were good but as you say, still £400 (ish) for a 2060 mid range card, which I paid for a 680 not that far back.Oh come on.
This is a mid-range, arguably low-mid card in the line up. Bettered by the 2070 Super, 2080, 2080 Super, 2080 Ti, Titan RTX. There are only three cards below it? Ignoring media centre type cards.
And it has a near-enough £400 price tag. Just lol at the "great pricing". It's bloody shameful pricing. It's outright extortion.
Mid-range buyers can't afford any 2000 series nVidia card. Not one.
What do you get for £150 - £250? Nothing. Nothing at all.
Great pricing tho.
This quote right here is why the GPU market continues to be as bad as it is today.
Consumers thinking they are getting great value, when in fact the are being taken a loan of.
Grow a brain people.
Let's hate them both. Works for me!I agree but in the same breath, surely AMD were also taking the mick with the Radeon VII price vs performance too?
Lets call a spade a spade and say that both AMD and Nvidia at the high end are taking the mick.
For 1080ti+ performance (4k/60 borderline), both AMD and Nvidia are overcharging.
We can't hate on Nvidia for releasing a better value 1080ti equivalent than both themselves and AMD have released in the past 12 months anymore than we can hate on AMD for the Radeon VII (blahblah its a prosumer card its not for games blahblah)
You make fair points and I guess my thinking was coming from previous card prices. I thought they were good but as you say, still £400 (ish) for a 2060 mid range card, which I paid for a 680 not that far back.
Depends on Sunday.
Ideally I want to be able to get a 3900X and a Vega VII for £1000. But I don't think that's a possibility.
I'd get a 5700XT and 3900X for £850 If it was a possibility.
One.
I'm not married to either vendor.
I'm pretty much solid on getting a 3900X, but depending how I feel on the day may go 3800X.
However I want a better GPU than my Vega 64. If the 5700XT comes in at the right price point I'd be happy to buy it. But the 2070 super overclocked is offering the performance I want, just more expensive than I want.
I agree but in the same breath, surely AMD were also taking the mick with the Radeon VII price vs performance too?
Lets call a spade a spade and say that both AMD and Nvidia at the high end are taking the mick.
For 1080ti+ performance (4k/60 borderline), both AMD and Nvidia are overcharging.
I agree, both AMD/Nvidia are overcharging. I personally don't care who makes the card, just release one that has great performance and is value for money.
Intel entering the dGPU market next year with Xe can only be a good thing for consumers as it'll add much needed competition to the GPU market.
The Intel cards might not be great, but at least they'll have a presence within the market.
Personally, i wouldn't spend a penny upgrading until next gen consoles arrive and as much as i don't like it, they'll set the benchmark for min/max requirements for next gen titles going forward.
Perfect time to upgrade imo will be 2021 onwards. More competition/new tech (GPU/CPUs) from Nvidia/AMD/Intel on PC, HDMI 2.1 GPUs will have hit the market too, Ray Tracing performance will be increased, 4K/VRR/HDR compatible TVs will be available and less expensive.
Until then, i can play through my 400+ backlog across Steam, GOG, Origin, etc.
Let's hate them both. Works for me!
But more importantly, let's not buy the bloody things!
No point in any of us grumbling if we then cave in and buy them anyway. Of course it's none of my business how you all spend your money. But if you don't like it and you buy anyway, then the upwards pricing trend is of our own making.
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AMD's new line up
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