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@FoxEye A vega 56 can do 1440p ultra, and is under £300 so in your definition that is mid range as it competes just below a 1080 or 2070 especially if you flash a 64 bios to it and undervolt/overclock it, it can be level with those cards.
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I bought a gaming PC in 1992 for just over a grand. Or rather it was bought for me as I was 12
Those 3-4K figures are ridiculous.
I think it was '96 when I built my first custom PC and that was way less than a grand.
I'm that old I was around back then
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I'm glad someone else sees that. It's become pretty obvious imho, give amd the consoles, keep the mid to high end to nvidia, the low and mid to amd again, the consoles for the kids and the easy gaming crowd, and streaming for the casuals and cash strapped.
Isn't that what I said? Vega 56 is mid-low and 2070S is mid-high.
So we're back where I said we were: mid-range starts at £300.
And Vega 56 is EOL. After it's gone we only have £400+ mid-range cards atm.
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I have always aimed for around £500 for a pc since my 486dx 40 and if i didn't upgrade the entire system it would be £500 for a few of things like MB cpu and ram, or gpu, or monitor and ram e.t.c until recently when it started at £500 for a MB case and cpu and then £500 and then £500 and then £500 adding more to it it's got outta control now im a grown upI bought a gaming PC in 1992 for just over a grand. Or rather it was bought for me as I was 12
Those 3-4K figures are ridiculous.
I think it was '96 when I built my first custom PC and that was way less than a grand.
I'm that old I was around back then
Soldato
1440p ultra is the top of mid range, hence £280, hence vega. An rx 590 would be mid range as it can still do 1440p with high settings.
I'm sorry but if you define V56 as the very top of mid-range than you are saying that 2060S and 5700 are high-end.
Nobody is going to agree with that.
Anway we talk about Resolution+Refresh, not RES alone.
1440p/100+ is top of mid-range. 1440p/60 is not there.
I don't think V56 can do 1440p/100+ can it.
Soldato
We should stop this now, unless we are going to classify the tiers of gpus by ourselves.
You could say anything that will run 4k on any settings at 60fps is a high end, which on my vega 64 I could run many many many games at 4k at tweaked high / very high settings at 60fps 4k... so there is no way to really justify either of our arguments here my friend.
Yes it can do 100fps at 1440p, obviously depending on the game, and again thats where we can never sort this out lol
Soldato
They will agree that, until you ask them to make a decisive list of what requirements a low mid and high card should have, at which point anyone could shatter that with a different card suggestion.
If you can buy a gpu at £50 or at £1900 (kingpin ) then a mid range would be £900
Like i said lets just agree that neither of us has any clue what high or mid range is or where it stops because everything is a mess.
When i bought a vega 64 (the best card amd offered at the time) I certainly thought at £600 it was high end being 1080 performance and only a 1080ti beating it.
Well I was in my first IT job buying this stuff. It really was that expensive. Hard drives were particularly pricey. The 486SX was cheaper though and popular for budget gaming.
Of course you need to double these prices to account for inflation...
Hi end is the fastest GFX card 2080ti This is not even a 4k card TBH and certainly not with RTX enabled
Mid is Radeon 7 1080ti, 2080 2070s will do 4 k at a push but will cream 3440 x 1440p
low is all the stuff below mid stuff like the 1070 and 2060 are 1080p cards IMO ( The 1070 aint a 1440p card at high settings, worn the T shirt)
then you have entry level These will do 1080p at a push and run office
Mid is Radeon 7 1080ti, 2080 2070s will do 4 k at a push but will cream 3440 x 1440p
low is all the stuff below mid
stuff like the 1070 and 2060 are 1080p cards IMO ( The 1070 aint a 1440p card at high settings, worn the T shirt)then you have entry level
These will do 1080p at a push and run office
Soldato
Under what classification is it a high end? What makes it that? Why not a radeon 7 ?
explain
That's not a fair comparison. Corporate IT tends to spend waaaaay more than consumer prices on stuff. At least they do at our place. £700+ for a basic laptop (no GPU, low-wattage CPU). But then we're government and we like to get shafted as much as possible on every purchase.
As said my gaming PC was £1200 in '92. You spent more than that for corporate IT stuff.
I'm happy to accept they are both true and not really comparable.
Anyway, since '92 prices dropped a metric ton and PC stuff became a common commodity. Now we're climbing up teh other side of the valley. You see? We're going back to '92 prices. nVidia will take us all the way back
Its not high end....It thinks it is cause of its price....but its esentially the same speed as 2.5yr old gfx cards...So it aint high end...
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The vega is mid for sure. Only recently has it come down to 300 or below. That said on launch it was meh, however as it matured with some drivers you have it beating a 1070ti which costs £450, comfortably beating a 1070 which is £320. It is unfortunately a higher tier for AMD due to the expensive memory choice. The 590 was rather pointless but under £200 its reasonable especially with the game offers.
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So the 2080 and radeon 7 being as fast as the absolute top end of top tier the 1080ti , is now suddenly a mid teir?
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Here I go, im going to regret this
2080ti top top
2080/2080s + radeon 7 - top
2060s/2070/2070s + vega 64 + 5700xt - low top
2060 / 1660ti + 5700 - top mid
1660/590 - mid
580 + 1060 - low mid
everthing below is low tier
How about that
2080ti top top
2080/2080s + radeon 7 - top
2060s/2070/2070s + vega 64 + 5700xt - low top
2060 / 1660ti + 5700 - top mid
1660/590 - mid
580 + 1060 - low mid
everthing below is low tier
How about that
Yes...You can't call something High end when its the same speed as 2.5 year tech....
The 1080 TI was once high end ...Its not now and as the 2080 and Rad7 and 2070s only just match its Mid...in Gaming GFX develops and GFX cards loose their power over time...The 2080 is a young card but lacks grunt for current games at higher resolutions...
The High end is the 2080ti but is still a poor card as you cant use it at 4k with RTX enabled....So its a high end card when certain features are switched off...
The whole 20 series cards have been a disappointment from release...Rad 7 was meh....1080ti performance in 2019...is not high end.