AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[chrcoluk]

The most thing ridiculous about all this?

OCUK won't tell us the bloody prices of the motherboards! Why? Why would the price of something be a secret. it makes no sense. AMD released the MSRP of the chips weeks ago. Why are the motherboard prices so hidden? I mean we are going to find out on sunday. So why not now? Would help us plan our builds. All this uber secrecy is just plain stupid and actually annoys me. You don't get this in other industries, consumers wouldn't tolerate it.
When Tesla announce a new car. They tell you the price. Months before it's ready for purchase! Same with anything. Just PC hardware they take their customers for mugs.

Because the price will be based on demand, if they sell well, they will be gouged, if they dont sell well they will be closer to MSRP.

 

[beany_bot]

could be nda with amd or with the pound being all over the shop this past week maybe they cant go live with prices as they havent been charged yet, who knows. but it is annoying.

But why? Why an NDA that says "god what ever you do dont tell your customers how much the thing costs!" It just makes no sense and frankly belittles their customers.
Exchange rate is irrelevant because OCUK will have long since paid for the MOBO's they have. So that cost is known. Also I would expect that OCUK (might be wrong) carry a large Dollar account so they are not suspect to such wild variations in currency value. But that is a side issue.

 

[ricid]

dont know yet as they haven't launched.

Fair point, but the anandtech preview article has a budget board at $199, so I'll be pleasantly surprised to see something at that price point.

 

[beany_bot]

Because the price will be based on demand, if they sell well, they will be gouged, if they dont sell well they will be closer to MSRP.

But you wont know demand until you put them for sale.... i.e. have already shown a price.

 

[humbug]

If you're new to Ryzen, going b450/x470 is a hassle, as you need to buy/borrow an old CPU from somewhere to bootstrap & update bios. Less of an issue on B450 due to usb flashback being more widely available, but if you want something that 'just works' x570 is the only option at launch and it's pricey. It's not the end of the world but it's not irrelevant.

This is a good point, none of the B450 or X470 boards on sale will support Ryzen 3000 out of the box, they will need a Ryzen 1000 / 2000 to flash the BIOS unless they get one with a BIOS Flashing Utility on the IO, most B450's don't have that, not all X470 boards have it.

Before i sell my ASRock it will be updated to a Ryzen 3000 BIOS.

 

[GAC]

But why? Why an NDA that says "god what ever you do dont tell your customers how much the thing costs!" It just makes no sense and frankly belittles their customers.
Exchange rate is irrelevant because OCUK will have long since paid for the MOBO's they have. So that cost is known. Also I would expect that OCUK (might be wrong) carry a large Dollar account so they are not suspect to such wild variations in currency value. But that is a side issue.

im only taking guess here, but maybe legal wise amd just has a blanket nda until launch date that covers everyone be it retail or reviewers, but yes il agree the hiding of prices on motherboards is idiotic.

 

[4K8KW10]

@Journey thought you said £240-50 for Taichi ?

With so many offerings (15 only in that listing), they for sure don't expect you to buy X470/B450/X370/B350 to run Ryzen 3000...

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I said $249, I didn't convert one currency, to another then another, then add tax. As I said in my reply to your post, I am only passing on what I was told by ASRock, you can go back and read it if you so wish.

Journey said: ↑
Would help if you read the whole post!

It's $249, which is £198+ VAT is ~£240 give or take. Pricing is from ASRock.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/32837185/



Have a feeling it'll be whack bang at £330 mark . Taichi naming to carry it over asus strix priced just a little bit more

 

[4K8KW10]

Journey said: ↑
Would help if you read the whole post!

It's $249, which is £198+ VAT is ~£240 give or take. Pricing is from ASRock.

By the way, the X570 Steel Legend is not bad...

 

[DragonQ]

This is a good point, none of the B450 or X470 boards on sale will support Ryzen 3000 out of the box, they will need a Ryzen 1000 / 2000 to flash the BIOS unless they get one with a BIOS Flashing Utility on the IO, most B450's don't have that, not all X470 boards have it.

Before i sell my ASRock it will be updated to a Ryzen 3000 BIOS.

Fortunately for the budget-conscious, the best B450 boards (MSI Tomahawk, Mortar, Carbon) all support USB flashback.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

By the way, the X570 Steel Legend is not bad...

asrock make sound BIOS's ! cant take that away ! just as long as they dont ask you to put £20 in the RMA box PMSL

needing to do ASrock and Asus thread post with VRM and links. sure i started it but havwent updated. Now PCB breakdowns are out!

 

[Alvie]

So glad I decided to purchase a B450 board. I will probably upgrade to an X570 board once the pricing has hopefully settled and deals appear as I really wanted a X570 Steel Legend but can't justify spending over 250 on a board.

Which one did you get? I'm looking into B450 boards but will probably only buy after the reviews for the 7 3700X come out

 

[4K8KW10]

It's $249, which is £198+ VAT is ~£240 give or take. Pricing is from ASRock

X570 Taichi will be £444 according to that listing

 

[beany_bot]

X570 Taichi will be £444 according to that listing

No.... £360

 

[humbug]

Fortunately for the budget-conscious, the best B450 boards (MSI Tomahawk, Mortar, Carbon) all support USB flashback.

They do, and they are good boards for not much money, MSI really hit it off with their 400 series board's. a Pro Carbon is probably what i'll end up with.

 

[8 Pack]

X570 Taichi I tried a lot. Bios is great and its working very very well...... On a par with the best I tried.

I said last night about OC .... Take single core boost -200mhz for 24-7 OC on all CPUs with 2x8gb 3600c16 RAM and X570 platform. All CPU I tried can do this.

Obviously will be some silicon lottery but none could match boost frequency with all core OC and very few can run 3733mhz RAM 1:1 with Infinity Fabric.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

X570 Taichi will be £444 according to that listing

need a slap ! lol, nah, it cant be. asrock isn't asus ... i do refuse to believe that. may end up eating my hat but taichi isn't the big daddy anymore for them . £440... smoked by the master and ACE for features.

holding onto £350

 

[beany_bot]

X570 Taichi I tried a lot. Bios is great and its working very very well...... On a par with the best I tried.

How much is it?
I'm a potential customer with money in my pocket.
In no other walk of life would someone refuse to tell me how much a product that is for sale in 2 days costs lol.

 

[8 Pack]

^^^ I dont know.... Motherboard purchasing is not my remit !!!!!

 

[orbitalwalsh]

X570 Taichi I tried a lot. Bios is great and its working very very well...... On a par with the best I tried.

I said last night about OC .... Take single core boost -200mhz for 24-7 OC on all CPUs with 2x8gb 3600c16 RAM and X570 platform.

thanks for the heads up, seems some comments on here aren't buying your word but nice for postings and walking the fine line