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Kevin Parsons · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:04

Gibbo said:
Do not see it in stock elsewhere.

I had a pre-order somewhere else as i've always had free delivery. However, stock isnt due there now until next week so you'll be pleased to know more business just headed your way : )

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Gibbo · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:05

beany_bot said:
I remember when £900 would get you a total top of the range PC

Easy to remember the good stuff, but I also remember paying £349 for a HP CD-Writer a long time ago, generally things are much better.

Zeed said:
I remember times when just hard drive was 900quid !!!!

Yep I remember paying a lot of money for a Quantum Fireball and a Quantum Bigfoot drives, it is easy to complain, but reality is things have gotten much cheaper and the reality also is the flagship stuff there is no need for, the mainstream perfectly powerful stuff is fantastic value for money compared to years long ago.

Gibbo · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:05

Kevin Parsons said:
I had a pre-order somewhere else as i've always had free delivery. However, stock isnt due there now until next week so you'll be pleased to know more business just headed your way : )

Nice one, thank you!

ricid · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:08

Gibbo said:
Easy to remember the good stuff, but I also remember paying £349 for a HP CD-Writer a long time ago, generally things are much better.

Yep I remember paying a lot of money for a Quantum Fireball and a Quantum Bigfoot drives, it is easy to complain, but reality is things have gotten much cheaper and the reality also is the flagship stuff there is no need for, the mainstream perfectly powerful stuff is fantastic value for money compared to years long ago.

The fact you can get a 2TB nvme SSD for ~£250 is nuts. That sort of performance / size was small car territory not long ago.

Sh4rkie · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:09

Zeed said:
I remember times when just hard drive was 900quid !!!!

Those were the days...

Extracted from a trade price list from 1999

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STOCK CODE   DESCRIPTION   1+   5+
9IBMU/WIDESCSI   9.0 GB SCSI II U/Wide/U2 SCSI IBM 7200 rpm    192.50   189.00
9IBMSCSI   9.0 GB IBM SCSI Ultra 2 10000rpm 4mb cache   355.10   348.40
18IBMSCSI   18.2 GB IBM SCSI Ultra 2 10000rpm 4mb cache   556.50   546.00
18QUA   18.2 GB SCSI Quantum Atlas 4 U2 7200rpm 2mb cache   424.00   416.00
18SEALVDSCSI   18.2 GB SCSI  Seagate Barracuda 1mb 7200rpm   450.50   442.00
13QUANTUM   13 GB Quantum CR 5400rpm UDMA   102.50   100.50
   15 GB Western Digital IDE U/DMA   105.00   103.00
16IBM   16.8 GB IDE IBM Titan 5400 rpm UDMA   111.50   109.00
17MAX   17 GB IDE Diamond Max 5400rpm   126.50   124.00
18.2QUA   18.2GB IDE Quantum Fireball KA 7200rpm 8.5ms ATA 66   192.50   189.00

Gibbo · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:09

ricid said:
The fact you can get a 2TB nvme SSD for ~£250 is nuts. That sort of performance / size was small car territory not long ago.

Yep its much better.

Kelt · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:10

ricid said:
The fact you can get a 2TB nvme SSD for ~£250 is nuts. That sort of performance / size was small car territory not long ago.

I remember going to a Computer Fair (those were the days) and my brother buying a 6Gb HDD for £200...and that was a good price at the time!

TheMoeBlob · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:12

The Home PC my family had had a 256mb hardrive, how times have changed.

robfosters · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:15

I get 3 months Xbox game pass free as well don’t I, or is that just for Navi card buyers?

robfosters · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:18

I always tell shops in advance when I’m coming. Gives them time to roll the red carpet out.

zxh800 · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:19

Regarding the X470 vs. X570. I usually do long term builds (current build is 8 years old). I'll probably hand on to my next build for 5-6 years at least. PCI-E 4.0 is the only reason to upgrade really. What are peoples thoughts on the relevancy of PCI-E 4.0 in the coming years? I never get top end cards really. Mid-high tier cards mainly (Thinking of a 2070 Super and will upgrade to the next one in 3-4 years). Is PCI-E 4.0 worth it for me?

TheMoeBlob · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:22

Anyone seen any comparisons between the 3600x and the 3700x for sheerly gaming?

DragonQ · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:23

zxh800 said:
Regarding the X470 vs. X570. I usually do long term builds (current build is 8 years old). I'll probably hand on to my next build for 5-6 years at least. PCI-E 4.0 is the only reason to upgrade really. What are peoples thoughts on the relevancy of PCI-E 4.0 in the coming years? I never get top end cards really. Mid-high tier cards mainly (Thinking of a 2070 Super and will upgrade to the next one in 3-4 years). Is PCI-E 4.0 worth it for me?

I also keep my rigs for ages (current is over 10 years old) but decided PCIe 4.0 was not useful. I don't even have any cards that require PCIe 3.0 (except for GPU) at the moment, and in fact a lot of cards run at 1.0 or 2.0 speeds even if advertised as being 3.0 compatible.

jigger · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:24

s6545 said:
expensive.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
B350 motherboard with a Ryzen 9 3900X:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpYiJ9h05JM

Nice.

chroniclard · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:26

zxh800 said:
Regarding the X470 vs. X570. I usually do long term builds (current build is 8 years old). I'll probably hand on to my next build for 5-6 years at least. PCI-E 4.0 is the only reason to upgrade really. What are peoples thoughts on the relevancy of PCI-E 4.0 in the coming years? I never get top end cards really. Mid-high tier cards mainly (Thinking of a 2070 Super and will upgrade to the next one in 3-4 years). Is PCI-E 4.0 worth it for me?

There is a review floating around on PCI-E 4 vs the others and it offered no appreciable benefit "at the moment" for current GPU's.

Orcvader · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:31

Kashinoda said:
I see people giving Anandtech **** but Ian Cutress had to pull out last minute.

Fair enough. Then again they also had to juggle with the 5700 reviews too so there was quite a lot to prepare for last Sunday.

chrcoluk · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:34

alec said:
PS/2 had a brief resurgence couple years ago, before they figured out how to do n-key rollover and polling rates above 125Hz on USB. And allow fancy keyboards into BIOS. Not relevant these days

There is still demand for ps/2 but people just kind of shut up as it seemed a losing battle.

Also some people use ps/2 kvm's on consumer boards.

The way I see it it takes up space for 1 or 2 usb ports, but if you already got 6+ usb on a board anyway (typically 8 with front ports), then I see adding a ps/2 port for that flexibility vs usb ports that will never get used as more useful.

I have a usb keyboard, usb mouse, usb printer, 2 phones connected, usb powered headphone amplifier, gamepad, usb microphone. Which is a fair few devices and still have 5 available ports.

Its a bit like the arguments that its better to keep spare unused hdmi ports on a gpu over having the flexibility of dvi. Flexibility is usually king.

opethdisciple · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:35

This AMD slide has the 3800x 9% faster in multi thread than the 3700x.

chrcoluk · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:39

thewiredsoul said:
So Anandtech just posted a twitter message saying they are redoing their CPU tests because of a new bios showing very different boost behavior.

This looks like p-states got tuned to be more aggressive, i expect to boost media review scores, but probably bad for real world use as it makes the cpu's less efficient, I noticed my 2600X has way too agressive p-states vs my 8600k probably for the same reason. Simply opening notepad on my 2600X takes it to max boost clocks.

Kelt · 8 Jul 2019 at 13:41

opethdisciple said:
This AMD slide has the 3800x 9% faster in multi thread than the 3700x.

If I was thinking about buying a 3800X I would seriously reduce my food intake for a couple of months and with the money saved, purchase the 3900X.

And lose a few lbs and oz into the bargain.

Win win!

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