AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[TheMoeBlob]

Not sure new cards will be out that early, at least not from Nvidia.

Never say never though.

Big Navi is coming art some point

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

So AMD+AMD vs Intel+Nvidia seems to be the way to get performance?

 

[N19h7m4r3]

So AMD+AMD vs Intel+Nvidia seems to be the way to get performance?

Similar thing happened first Ryzen launch. Nvidia need to put out some new drivers is all. I hope

 

[Mercutio]

Similar thing happened first Ryzen launch. Nvidia need to put out some new drivers is all. I hope

This.

New drivers from Nvidia, chipset+bios updates from AMD... all good. Should land nicely in line with 9900k

 

[alec]

Similar thing happened first Ryzen launch. Nvidia need to put out some new drivers is all. I hope

Well, gaming benchmarks have to be redone both cases. Eiter right now with a Radeon, or later after driver fix with Nvidia

 

[Destination]

This is rather interesting.
Have review sites used a vega64 or similar for any comparative games testing.

 

[DragonQ]

Someone at OC.net appears to have PCIe 4.0 x16 working on an X470 board (Crosshair VII Hero). At least it's detected as such by GPU-Z. Wonder if that's actually the case or not...

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Well, gaming benchmarks have to be redone both cases. Eiter right now with a Radeon, or later after driver fix with Nvidia

Have to be,wont always. Very few places will bother to retest, and usually just reuse launch numbers.

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

Similar thing happened first Ryzen launch. Nvidia need to put out some new drivers is all. I hope

So Ryzen is 3-5% behind in gaming despite the 2080Ti running badly at present.
What makes little sense is how Ryzen beats Intel when using a less powerful GPU. Surely AMD also need to update their own GPU drivers for Intel CPUs too.

 

[Kashinoda]

That Ryzen on AMD vs nVidia graph isnt an actual comparison.

The guy who made it collected reviews from different websites and smooshed them together.

Basically not worth the jpg it's printed on.

 

[Zeed]

Your order has been shipped
Thats what I wanted to see today

 

[Curlyriff]

Never quite understood this logic - by the time DDR5/PCIE 5.0 come out why not then wait for DDR6/PCIE 6.0 or the next big thing. Could play the waiting game forever.

Indeed, however I lived with 3.0 for 6 years on current system almost and although 4.0 is here, they appear to be relative short lived with 2 possibly 3 years. With PCIE 6.0 looking to have the standard finished for 2021. That means another 3-5 years to get to Enthusiasts at best.

5.0 is 4x what 3.0 is and so that to me seems like it could happily last a decade fine before that is issue, a new socket is needed for DDR5 from AMD so next year is end of life for current AM4, AM5 or whatever it will be to me seems like they could do the same with a few years support so I can look at just CPU/GPU upgrades for 3-5 years after that. Didn't have that option with Intel previous.

Wasn't same reason either because nobody was pushing multicore for game engines or even that much in general software which will change more and more so seems more plausible to start with a cheap low end 8 core in 2021 and move up range each year or similar as I can by then 8 core being the entry level tbh from AMD at least.

So indeed it depends on how often upgrade, what upgrade paths are and how software/games engines develop so I am taking a punt to hold out, especially since I feel that current gen stuff does not provide a big enough gap anyways for the costs so to jump in what would be 9 years and have double the performance, AMD likely offering decent Ray Tracing then, ray tracing being more mainstream etc. It for me feels logical compared to this intrim of almost end of DDR4 and relative short life span of PCIE 4.0

If my performance on next years games really tanks with my current system and there something I really want to play (tbh still mostly play either NMS or Stellaris at moment) then I may move to purchase this release (3700X/5700XT/16GB DDR4) next year to tie me over.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

So Ryzen is 3-5% behind in gaming despite the 2080Ti running badly at present.
What makes little sense is how Ryzen beats Intel when using a less powerful GPU. Surely AMD also need to update their own GPU drivers for Intel CPUs too.

AMD usually does. When Ryzen first launched the 295X2 out performed the TitanX in some games on Ryzen, until NVIDIA put out a driver.

Just looks like a repeat of it for now considering the changes in Zen 2 over Zen.

 

[Joeyuk]

The hardships some people face are unbelievable, I mean working on a weekend, what's the world coming to.

His main complaint was the new code AMD sent out on Thursday before the Sunday release. It meant they had to redo all their reviews for Ryzen on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. That would annoy me if I put a weeks worth of work in and had to redo everything over a weekend I did have free.

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

AMD usually does. When Ryzen first launched the 295X2 out performed the TitanX in some games on Ryzen, until NVIDIA put out a driver.

Just looks like a repeat of it for now considering the changes in Zen 2 over Zen.

If that is true then all gaming benchmarks so far are just worthless garbage.

 

[Zeed]

Well fun started at OCN

VS 3800cl16

Note its T2 vs T1

 

[Captain]

Had my 3900x dispatched half hour ago but the board i want is out of stock until maybe Friday.

 

[motiv]

So no news on the 3700x then?

 

[StriderX]

If that is true then all gaming benchmarks so far are just worthless garbage.

All launch reviews are worthless garbage, it's simply indicative of launch performance, unfortunately lots of reviewers suck ass at being consistent and thorough.

 

[Joeyuk]

When was the last time AMD launched on Sunday a product? I do not remember any the last 6 years at least.

Some other YouTube reviewer said AMD have done 2 weekend releases out of the last 3 and both times dropped new drivers late into the week.