AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Eiji]

3700X on X570 Taichi reaches 5.125GHz with LN2 cooling:

 

[N19h7m4r3]

If that is true then all gaming benchmarks so far are just worthless garbage.

Well when 1600 was panned as horrible when it launched compared to the more expensive 7600k, but now the i5 is getting trounced overall in gaming performance.

Most of it stems from AMD rushing launches; where drivers, firmware, and bioses are not stable or under performing.

They tend to shoot their own launches in the foot. Each time a month delay would have made things significantly better.

 

[NexxCat]

At this point it's looking highly unlikely the shipment will arrive at OcUK today, so guess we hold out hope for tomorrow. On the positive side, the B450 Mortar and NVMe SSD I ordered from elsewhere have shipped, so I will have those ready.

If the CPU doesn't ship from OcUK on Thursday, will they update the delivery address if I ask support? I'm back at home from Monday onwards. Well, unless they arrive Friday and wanna upgrade me to free Saturday shipping?

 

[Nerusy]

Sad times, another day without 3700x being delivered to OCUK

 

[opethdisciple]

All launch reviews are worthless garbage, it's simply indicative of launch performance, unfortunately lots of reviewers suck ass at being consistent and thorough.

So we shouldn't base judgements on the reviews? They are all over the place in terms of differences between themselves.

 

[StriderX]

So we shouldn't base judgements on the reviews? They are all over the place in terms of differences between themselves.

You should, but it should be with healthy skepticism. Unfortunately AMD scuffed this up, as per with their awkward language and silly release pressure.

I'm sure things will setting soon enough.

 

[Stephanie Peterson]

Still a lot more to come from this launch, the 3800 for a start plus what the deal is with performance after everything is patched properly and bios's work.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

So we shouldn't base judgements on the reviews? They are all over the place in terms of differences between themselves.

Their benchmarking methods are all over the place also. None of them use similar methods.

I tend to use them as a rough guide at best.

Heck, Anandtech are retesting because they didn’t even use the correct BIOS and were 200-300mhz lower on boosts. They’re already talking about a 3-9% uplift in performance on more single thread testing.

 

[AlexC]

This 8/8 proper launch they secretly planned will be *chefs kiss*

 

[StriderX]

Their benchmarking methods are all over the place also. None of them use similar methods.

I tend to use them as a rough guide at best.

Heck, Anandtech are retesting because they didn’t even use the correct BIOS and were 200-300mhz lower on boosts. They’re already talking about a 3-9% uplift in performance on more single thread testing.

Only in comparison to their results.

 

[motiv]

ok. So I ordered

• AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core 4.4GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
• Gigabyte X570 GAMING X (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard
• Team Group Dark Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (TDPRD416G32

As it's now looking like I will have time to change my order from not knowing, what do you people think would make the 3700x run better on If I can now choose a MB and RAM of equivalent value?

 

[humbug]

Terrible benchmarks those, he uses a GTX 1080 for most of the video and randomly switches up to a 2080TI and 2080 at the end, but only at 1440p and 4k. GPU bottlenecked all over the show.

Basically has no credence what so ever.

That said if you only game and absolutely nothing else there's no reason to upgrade from a 4790k regardless of platform. Much like the 2700K it just has incredible legs and games simply don't need more. If you're chasing that 240hz dream then by all means get something like a 9900k.

I'm on a 4790k and can't wait to be rid of just having 4 cores.

That is really odd, it's as if he's GPU bottlenecking the 3900X, a GTX 1080 is a pretty crap GPU for CPU performance testing, my overclocked GTX 1070 doesn't phase my Ryzen 1600 at 1080P, my 4690K couldn't deal with it...

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Only in comparison to their results.

Yes, but it shows launch reviews can be messy. None of them use similar methods, so the variances are all over the place depending on reviewer.

Simply means don’t take launch day stuff as absolute fact, Especially for a messy AMD launch.

 

[DarkHorizon472]

The more accurate results will come out as bios updates etc. settle down and actual users experiences.

 

[HRL]

Big Navi is coming art some point

Let’s hope it’s not a let down like the last few GPU’s. Could really do with something competitive for a change, CPU’s aside.

 

[willhub]

3700x in da bag! Wil install tonight

 

[69Dude]

3900x vs 4790K (I know a lot want to see this). 10% uplift on average. Kinda sad actually. 10% in 5 years. And thats ignoring that large overclock you can typically get on a 4790K. Im willing to bet they are the same FPS if the 4790 is at 4.6-4.8Ghz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqL7NYS5r2k

That's awesome imo, an increase in every game is good for my upgrade from a 4790k.
Previous gen ryzen were the same or less. Now I get better games as well as real world improvements and capacity tripling. Instruction sets will also make my vpn use less than a chunk of the cpu and also do better in disk decryption.

 

[humbug]

You wouldn't use what is a relatively weak GPU like the 1080 or even 1080TI to test the difference between such wildly different CPU's.

If you used a 1080TI Ryzen 3700X vs 9900K and there was nothing between them you would be right to point out the 1080TI is bottlenecking them, you wouldn't say the 3700X is as fast as the 9900K.

Likewise the 1080TI, certainly the GTX 1080 is not enough to allow the 3900X to stretch it's legs, its bottlenecked by the GPU.

So "see 3900X is only 10% faster than the the 4790K" is short sighted, the 4790K may well bottleneck a GTX 1080 but the 3900X has more to give with a faster GPU.

My 4690K bottlenecked my GTX 1070, the Ryzen 1600 doesn't.

 

[motiv]

3700x in da bag! Wil install tonight

How did you get hold of one of those suckers?

 

[opethdisciple]

ok. So I ordered

• AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core 4.4GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
• Gigabyte X570 GAMING X (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard
• Team Group Dark Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (TDPRD416G32

As it's now looking like I will have time to change my order from not knowing, what do you people think would make the 3700x run better on If I can now choose a MB and RAM of equivalent value?

I like Asus boards personally but that's just my preference. I would however go for the DarkPro 3600MHz ram.