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Threadripper has traditionally had the highest core clocks in the Ryzen range (2700x @ 4.35ghz vs 2950x @ 4.4ghz). Gen 1 Ryzen/TR had matched single core boost clocks - 4.2ghz. I reckon we could be on for a 5ghz single core boost for new TR.

You're right, not sure why I thought clock speeds were so much lower. That will definitely be interesting to see then!
 
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So it did work on x470, like they said and then retracted. Very interesting
 
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Well I've slapped it (3700x) in my B350-F Strix, 3200MHz RAM now and CPU running 4.3GHz / 3.6 at load, getting Ryzen Master to get all cores to 4. whateverish.

I tried 4.4 at 1.45 and it crashed.
 
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One of them was me. Just spend 1hr playing with this bad boy (3700x) and it was not that hard. Currently running 3800mhz cl14 1:1 . 63ns latency with Aida. Only mem write speeds are ugly for all 3000 series except the 3900x.

Will try to push more tomorrow...

PS: still waiting for the lost courier to get my other chip from OCuk...
 
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So I would be better not updated bios on my shiny x570 aorus master.. as max clocks on 3900x droped from 4.65 to 4.35.. updated from F3 to F5e... :S hopefully they will sort this out fast..
 
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I'm at 4.1GHz all cores with 1.34v (1.37 - 1.39 reported) seems stable and temps around 88. Not sure if I should actually try the wraith prism cooler, paranoid I have seated it incorrectly unless it is just as said new heatsink required.
 
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For those comparing 4790k to 9900k/9700k performance, there's actually quite a large difference in CPU intensive games such as Warhammer II.

Warhammer II:
https://www.sweclockers.com/test/26...-i7-9700k-och-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-refresh/16

The Witcher 3:
https://www.sweclockers.com/test/26...k-och-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-refresh/15#content

I think it matters hugely which games you play. Clearly though, there are some games that benefit from newer CPUs, even at 4K resolution, where there may be 10-20 FPS difference.I think it's mostly down to IPC improvements though, rather than core count. And possibly moving from DDR3 to DDR4 as well.
 
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It would be very interesting to see how much using DDR3 limits a 9900K or 9700K. Has anyone tested this, or could you post a link showing performance in benchmarks?
 
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For those comparing 4790k to 9900k/9700k performance, there's actually quite a large difference in CPU intensive games such as Warhammer II.

Warhammer II:
https://www.sweclockers.com/test/26...-i7-9700k-och-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-refresh/16

The Witcher 3:
https://www.sweclockers.com/test/26...k-och-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-refresh/15#content

I think it matters hugely which games you play. Clearly though, there are some games that benefit from newer CPUs, even at 4K resolution, where there may be 10-20 FPS difference.I think it's mostly down to IPC improvements though, rather than core count. And possibly moving from DDR3 to DDR4 as well.

I am generally at 4k resolution for what I play which is showing about 6fps in TW:W2 & 2fps in W3 so am sticking with my thought process although I am likely to go back to 1440p @ 144hz instead on next build. Don't play any games currently that make a huge difference though myself.
 
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So i have a B450 Tomahawk and updated BIOS to latest version, from their website. I installed a 3700x correctly, and now its not finding any signal to the TV.
Reading a few comments on there, a few people have this issue, and somebody told 1 of them there won't be any more BIOS for these boards.
Not happy, and they better fix this.

Right now im hearing the fans of an old laptop, not my £350 part i just paid for a was promised it would work with these boards. I only got this rig in Jan, with a Rayzen 1600x as a stop-gap. I built this rig for 4k gaming, and needed the 3700X to do just that. They better pull their fingers out, i swear.
 
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For those comparing 4790k to 9900k/9700k performance, there's actually quite a large difference in CPU intensive games such as Warhammer II.

Warhammer II:
https://www.sweclockers.com/test/26...-i7-9700k-och-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-refresh/16

The Witcher 3:
https://www.sweclockers.com/test/26...k-och-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-refresh/15#content

I think it matters hugely which games you play. Clearly though, there are some games that benefit from newer CPUs, even at 4K resolution, where there may be 10-20 FPS difference.I think it's mostly down to IPC improvements though, rather than core count. And possibly moving from DDR3 to DDR4 as well.

There is not much there at all in Warhammer the 4790k seems to be up there at 4k. Then when you look at BF1 there still is no doubling of fps in the 720p bench can u be more cpu bound? 240p boys? Even there it is still not doubling the fps so i think maybe around the start of 2021 it will happen the fps will double in really cpu bound benchmarks.


As for Totalwar.. They have always been the test for me same again a doubling of fps is nowhere in sight you need a leap in ipc not cores.
 
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Built 3 PC’s yesterday. My new 3900 system was the last one. I was so knackered by the end of it i couldn’t be bothered to do anything. One cinebench run and that was it. Will crack on today.

One thing I noticed on installation was that it felt very heavy for a normal sized CPU. Had some real weight to it.
 
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