Ethnicity pay gap and dodgy BBC reporting

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Doesn't have to be, could be pretty mediocre, I'd certainly not assume that a small business owner is necessarily poor. Obviously there is a high failure rate in that business but given an existing business that has been sustained over a few years they might well be doing rather well.
it was just an example. i didnt say all chinese takeway owners were poor :p
 
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It's the pure mental gymnastics that people must put them through to make statements like this.

"The harsh reality is that even today race still plays a real role in determining pay," said Frances O'Grady, general secretary of the TUC.

"Ministers must take bold action to confront inequality and racism in the labour market. The obvious first step is to introduce mandatory ethnicity pay gap reporting without delay," she said.

When you have figures showing that on average Indians earn more than whites in the UK but both Pakistanis and Bangladeshis earn considerably less than the white average.


'Race' clearly is a rather poor explanation for the disparities we see and culture (as often manifested and least partially due to religions followed) is a far more significant factor.
 
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It's the pure mental gymnastics that people must put them through to make statements like this.



When you have figures showing that on average Indians earn more than whites in the UK but both Pakistanis and Bangladeshis earn considerably less than the white average.


'Race' clearly is a rather poor explanation for the disparities we see and culture (as often manifested and least partially due to religions followed) is a far more significant factor.

TLDR it only matters when we can blame whitey?

Most of time these people quite literally just always bring up an issue when it's to bash whitey. But ignored rest of the time.
 
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Hi,
I saw this article on the BBC News site and you'll see that the headline is that white workers earn 3.8% more than the average ethnic worker.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48919813

Article headline =
Chinese ethnic group biggest earners in the UK

Now the headline per se but the main thrust of the messaging, IMO.

First sentence Chinese and Indian ethnic group workers have higher average earnings than their white British counterparts, the first detailed official figures show.

Ending sentence of that paragraph In 2018, employees from the Chinese ethnic group earned 30.9% more than white British employees.



The graph used to show who is paid highest in order of ethnicity

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what ever you're smoking... please pass it over i'd like some too
 
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It's the pure mental gymnastics that people must put them through to make statements like this.

When you have figures showing that on average Indians earn more than whites in the UK but both Pakistanis and Bangladeshis earn considerably less than the white average.

'Race' clearly is a rather poor explanation for the disparities we see and culture (as often manifested and least partially due to religions followed) is a far more significant factor.

Its more to do with the drive for education. With Chinese and Indians, the drive to get a good education is very important. Pakastanis and more so Bangladeshis in contrast do the worst in education across ethnic groups whilst Chinese and Indians tend to do rather well.
 
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Most of the population don't care about race, its a minority of not quite right people that are obsessed with finding differences and forcing everyone to catagogrise everyone to generate pointless stats..
 
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is this comparing pay for the same jobs/roles?

or simply pointing out that an accountant gets paid more than a cleaner? (for example!)

Basically, that's the way they look at it....

They never mention it's been illegal to pay a man more than women for the same job/hours etc since the 70's.
 

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Christ dude, lose that white background. Too might light on my screen :(

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I have a specific form of colour blindness - I can barely read that page - the purple text on the black background makes the text virtually disappear for me.

And purple on red? That's a design faux pas regardless of whether you're colour blind or not!
 

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They never mention it's been illegal to pay a man more than women for the same job/hours etc since the 70's.

Yet it still happens.

The unions for for that change, won it but now they are in decline, there is no one there to monitor to get it enforced.
 
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Us Cornish have got to be one of the lowest paid ethnic groups. Yes, we are a recognised minority in this country ;)

I wonder if we could demand to be paid like you Londoners.
 
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Wow so many nice racial comments in here, not all of us agree with the "dog meat festival" so don't pair us all with it.
As for claiming a chinese guy is "poor" because he runs a takeaway has probably jumped on the property bandwagon years ago and used the earnings from "takeaway" to buy properties and then renting them out to make profit on top of working 5-7 days a week.

My family immigrated to the UK back in the 80s and they didn't really get to receive any proper education coming from poor background, they didn't really get to learn english to the point they can hold a hour conversation as they all had to work to help support the family. And the only skill they knew was cooking so hence the takeaway business, now being raised by my parents i've always been told to do well in school and it will all pay off, now this and not wanting to be in the takeaway business is what motivated me to have a "no bs excuse".
I've never took a day off from school unless I have to and only called in sick work twice in 3 years of my work career(only 26).
Most of us that were born in the UK won't be working in takeaway as we have taken that lesson and now being employed in specialist jobs, so expect this process to be repeated by future asian immigrants.
 
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