Sub-150mm Air Cooler?

Raineh Daze · 6 Jul 2019 at 02:38

Looking ahead to the Ryzen 3 launch, and thinking that this time I would like to use a non-stock cooler and push it a bit further than the stock cooler would allow. Probably a 3600, maybe a 3600X.

However, my case only has a maximum cooler clearance of 150mm, whilst most good coolers seem to be just above this size, and low profile coolers seem a waste as I'm not that space constrained. What coolers might fit?

Rroff · 6 Jul 2019 at 02:58

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-cpu-cooler-92mm-hs-013-bq.html any good?

EDIT: 120 watt rated though which is a bit of a step down from the 160+ a lot of the others manage.

Raineh Daze · 6 Jul 2019 at 03:21

Hmm, looks good, but I was hoping for a bit more than 120W TDP in something with a more conventional design. Though I suppose only so much could be done with less mass.

Rroff · 6 Jul 2019 at 03:32

There are 1-2 others in the Be Quiet! range that are lower than 150mm with higher wattage but are a lot bulkier horizontally and I have no idea how much clearance you have to play with in all dimensions.

Raineh Daze · 6 Jul 2019 at 03:54

I can't find a specifically marked diagram, but I can find a picture of the board.† Based on the scale, I think the main risk is overlapping with the DIMM slots, but at least there I'm somewhat fortunate to be using Corsair LPX RAM, so it's fairly low profile. I think this means at least in the horizontal plane the clearance is pretty generous? It's more vertical confinement.

† I do hope that MSI doesn't go back on saying this would be compatible with 3rd-gen cards. That would be annoying.

EsaT · 6 Jul 2019 at 09:20

Cryorig H7 is 145mm high and only 120mm fan tower cooler I know to be below 150mm.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-h7-single-tower-heatsink-with-120mm-fan-hs-008-cy.html
Mounting could be just as comfortable to do alone as sitting in anthill...
With need to turn attaching screws from rear side of the mobo, while keeping heatsink and mobo properly aligned:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/cryorig-h7-universal/4.html
Designer must have been some mutant with extra hand or two...

Four heatpipe version has more standard attaching.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-h7-ultra-cpu-heatsink-with-black-120mm-fan-hs-012-cy.html
It's just overpriced considering class heavier duty Scythe Mugen 5 is clearly cheaper.

Have to wonder how low end case is, when it has that small clearance.
Or is it from some market PC?
Some 155mm enough for Mugen 5 is usual minimu clearance in modern cases with 120mm exhaust fan.

EsaT · 6 Jul 2019 at 09:52

Thermalright Macho 120 Rev A ja SBM would be just 150mm high.
http://www.thermalright.de/en/cooler/54/macho-120-sbm?c=9

For some reason their UK prices are just elevated.

Raineh Daze · 6 Jul 2019 at 15:06

Hm, that featured cryorig cooler looks good. Aside from the installation procedure being rated as, for some inscrutable reason, super easy unless there's some pressure already holding the heatsink in place when you have to turn the thing over to screw it down.

As for the case, it was this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...dition-mid-tower-pc-case-black-ca-196-cs.html

"Cooling capacity of the case" wasn't high on my mind when I first built this, just having better cooling than a four year old at the time laptop.

EsaT · 6 Jul 2019 at 18:26

Raineh Daze said:
As for the case, it was this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...dition-mid-tower-pc-case-black-ca-196-cs.html

Really surprising that Corsair would do such narrow case.
It's not even shoestring budget priced.

Raineh Daze · 6 Jul 2019 at 18:46

Oh, you don't need to tell me about it. It's also really constrained when it comes to fan placements, and there's almost no room with the drivebays to actually fit in some front fans (it would need a really tiny one to fit one of the front panels). Let alone clearance for the top vents--no chance to really fit an AIO in here.

doyll · 7 Jul 2019 at 11:42

Raineh Daze said:
Looking ahead to the Ryzen 3 launch, and thinking that this time I would like to use a non-stock cooler and push it a bit further than the stock cooler would allow. Probably a 3600, maybe a 3600X.

However, my case only has a maximum cooler clearance of 150mm, whilst most good coolers seem to be just above this size, and low profile coolers seem a waste as I'm not that space constrained. What coolers might fit?

Thermalright
Macho 120 Rev. B is 150mm tall & rated 200w TDP
TRUE Spirit 120M Rev. B is 145mm tall & rated 160w TDP
Silver Arrow 130 is 130mm tall & rated 240w TDP
Macho 120 SBM is 150 tall & rated 200w TDP

You can find their UK dealer on Thermalright.de website. Sorry but OcUK does not allow us to post names of companies and prices other than their own.

Raineh Daze · 7 Jul 2019 at 15:10

Thanks, but I've gone with the Cryorig cooler.

Even if it's somewhat hard to mount, I can borrow another pair of hands to help do it.

doyll · 7 Jul 2019 at 17:04

Raineh Daze said:
Thanks, but I've gone with the Cryorig cooler.

Even if it's somewhat hard to mount, I can borrow another pair of hands to help do it.

It's not at all not hard to mount. In fact it's so easy it is be done in 1 minute 23 seconds in video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhqTfg0Cd9k

Raineh Daze · 7 Jul 2019 at 17:09

Isn't that a different mounting mechanism to the H7s linked up there? Something about moving to a system where you need to tighten screws from behind.

doyll · 7 Jul 2019 at 17:38

Guess it depends on which H7 model is being used.
Both H7 and H7 Quad Lumi in same post.

Link above is for H7 Quad Lumi.

Link below is for orginal H7
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=h7+mounting+video

so one screws are tightened from behind motherboard and other is from front side. Really, the time it takes is basically the same.

Mr.Q · 9 Jul 2019 at 20:16

I feel like the following is quite underrated:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-red-cpu-cooler-2-x-120mm-hs-075-ar.html
Quite the bargin at £30 too.

doyll · 10 Jul 2019 at 11:40

Mr.Q said:
I feel like the following is quite underrated:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-red-cpu-cooler-2-x-120mm-hs-075-ar.html
Quite the bargin at £30 too.

Beating H50 isn't saying anything.
34 is 124x157x103mm (WxHD) w/ 2x fans & 4x direct contact heatpipes, so finpack is only 53mm deep.

For comparison, Alpenfohn Matterhorn Pure is 138x123x158mm w/ 1x fan & 6x heatpipes in 75mm deep finpack and is only £33.95 and has 6x 6mm heatpipes.

Direct contact heatpipes vs enclosed base heatpipes is not a big deal, although I believe enclosed is better.

50% more heatpipe area makes a huge difference in performance.

2x fans vs 1x fan on single tower (even twin towers) makes little difference (1-3c). Add 100-200rpm to single fan and it performs the same as 2x fans at lower rpm .. and at full speed the speed difference is even less. 2x fans make more noise than single fan, so the added speed needed with single fan ends up being about same DB level as 2x fans.

Raineh Daze · 10 Jul 2019 at 18:17

Well, the H7's been pretty nice so far (once I turned it round so it wasn't fighting the exhaust fan... whoops). Wasn't too bad to install, fits in the space available neatly, lets the 3600 stay boosted to 4GHz and individual cores boost to 4.2GHz. And stays pretty cool even without the fans not constantly ramped.

Mr.Q · 10 Jul 2019 at 21:07

Raineh Daze said:
Well, the H7's been pretty nice so far (once I turned it round so it wasn't fighting the exhaust fan... whoops). Wasn't too bad to install, fits in the space available neatly, lets the 3600 stay boosted to 4GHz and individual cores boost to 4.2GHz. And stays pretty cool even without the fans not constantly ramped.

Nice to hear your enjoying it.

Raineh Daze · 10 Jul 2019 at 21:18

Mr.Q said:
Nice to hear your enjoying it.

Apart from the bit where I had to replace the cooler with everything already installed in the case because I was an idiot who got confused which way the fan blows, yes.