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Pannalicour · 16 Jul 2019 at 14:16

Just out a curiously can somebody with a 3900x play the 8k60 fps youtube (without hardware accelerate) smoothly on chrome. (only if you have high enough internet connection.

I know the 1950x was struggling.

teppic · 16 Jul 2019 at 14:36

Interesting thing with the hardware unboxed vid, you can only see these small differences with a 2080ti and 1080p, it's that close now. He said if you're using something like a 2070 you'll usually see no difference between the 9900K and 3900X in gaming now.

arc@css · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:05

I wondered why the test for that video was at 1080p then my brain switched on. So, if it's only about 6% at 1080, it must be negligible at 4k or ultrawide.

Journey · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:08

arc@css said:
I wondered why the test for that video was at 1080p then my brain switched on. So, if it's only about 6% at 1080, it must be negligible at 4k or ultrawide.

Yes, ironically if you play at a peasant resolution with over priced hardware you can see a difference.

arc@css · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:10

Journey said:
Yes, ironically if you play at a peasant resolution with over priced hardware you can see a difference.

I should be okay at 1440 then.

LeMson · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:11

I am getting a bit peed off with the intel is better at gaming trope from the YT reviewers I watch, it's at 1080p meh, it's not a lot, one's not unplayable awful whilst the other rocks. Everything on both sides is within gsync/freesync range, there's no difference really.

N19h7m4r3 · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:15

LeMson said:
I am getting a bit peed off with the intel is better at gaming trope from the YT reviewers I watch, it's at 1080p meh, it's not a lot, one's not unplayable awful whilst the other rocks. Everything on both sides is within gsync/freesync range, there's no difference really.

At best 5% average difference, even OC vs OC. I think the 3900X will age far better with bios improvements helping with the boosting issues, and as more applications and games use more cores.

Especially since if you can run the stock cooler, and even with PBO there’s a 1% difference. between getting a different cooler.

LeMson · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:22

Yeah, and put that 5% difference in avg and lows that are well within freesync range and you have zero difference. The recommendations should be on price. or just something else!

5% might of mattered years ago when we only had 60fps vsync, and being over that vs dipping under was maybe noticeable(?)

I'd like gamersnexus, jayz2cents etc to tell a 5% performance difference in gsync/freesync, there's none. So move on to something that matters, it's really lazy I find. Give me more Jim AdoredTV!

alec · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:27

LeMson said:
I am getting a bit peed off with the intel is better at gaming trope from the YT reviewers I watch, it's at 1080p meh, it's not a lot, one's not unplayable awful whilst the other rocks. Everything on both sides is within gsync/freesync range, there's no difference really.

Well its definitely no longer "Intel is better in gaming". At best its "Intel 9700k and 9900k are better at gaming". Whole another story and you are looking at the top end of intel cpu lineup ONLY.
Even Ryzen 3600 eats the rest of Intel lineup for breakfast

orbitalwalsh · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:30

alec said:
Well its definitely no longer "Intel is better in gaming". At best its "Intel 9700k and 9900k are better at gaming". Whole another story and you are looking at the top end of intel cpu lineup ONLY.
Even Ryzen 3600 eats the rest of Intel lineup for breakfast

for me its 3 simple CPUs

3900x (x570 )over 9900k - editing / workloads/ streaming
9700k ( z390) over 3800x/3700x for pure gaming with high budgets
3600 (B450 ) over 3600x/9600k for mainstream gaming

LeMson · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:39

alec said:
Well its definitely no longer "Intel is better in gaming". At best its "Intel 9700k and 9900k are better at gaming". Whole another story and you are looking at the top end of intel cpu lineup ONLY.
Even Ryzen 3600 eats the rest of Intel lineup for breakfast

I have 3 PC's, all intel, so I'm not AMD fan boyying here.

Quick example then

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_3700x_ryzen_9_3900x_review,28.html

Full HD gaming perf table. Biggest difference Far Cry 5, 122 vs 152. I think FC5 might have been updated now but anyway.

Gync monitor - Can I see the difference between 122 and 152? I'd bet 10p it's just smooth on both.

Boomstick777 · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:43

Think I may have overdone the RGB.

G J · 16 Jul 2019 at 15:59

LeMson said:
I am getting a bit peed off with the intel is better at gaming trope from the YT reviewers I watch, it's at 1080p meh, it's not a lot, one's not unplayable awful whilst the other rocks. Everything on both sides is within gsync/freesync range, there's no difference really.

The vast majority of Youtube vid's bench the 3600 against a STOCK 9600k/8700k and there's people fawning in the comments about how Intel got owned and then people point out but you can clock them pretty much to 5ghz which many of the Youtubers fail to mention.

LeMson · 16 Jul 2019 at 16:02

I don't venture into the comments sections, unless I want a laugh

Kelt · 16 Jul 2019 at 16:08

Boomstick777 said:
Think I may have overdone the RGB.

There's no such thing!

What cooler OOI?

N19h7m4r3 · 16 Jul 2019 at 16:14

LeMson said:
I have 3 PC's, all intel, so I'm not AMD fan boyying here.

Quick example then

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_3700x_ryzen_9_3900x_review,28.html

Full HD gaming perf table. Biggest difference Far Cry 5, 122 vs 152. I think FC5 might have been updated now but anyway.

Gync monitor - Can I see the difference between 122 and 152? I'd bet 10p it's just smooth on both.

It was World War Z that recently got a massive update. Brought the cpus to within 1-2% which is just margin of error.

Seems with Far Cry the engine itself doesn’t play well with Ryzen’s architecture yet.

beany_bot · 16 Jul 2019 at 16:18

Ordered a 3900x today - Called OCUK first and they said they were expecting a shipment "any day now". And would be reciving more than they had already sold. So shouldn't be long.

Josu · 16 Jul 2019 at 16:27

mikeym · 16 Jul 2019 at 16:28

Good news. I ordered Saturday but ram, MB and NVME I ordered are all out of stock! I must have grown in patience a lot....

Zeed · 16 Jul 2019 at 16:54

HRL said:
Same here. OS is all I’ve got on an M2. Software is all on much larger SSD’s.

What increase does 101.8 get you on a 3900X?

101.8 is just to help with Bios C5 bug atm not looked in to performance side of it

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