One of the few? 80% of men in the US choose to have it done.
Five-Year-Old Child Hides On Medical Centre Roof To Avoid Being Circumcised
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One of the few? 80% of men in the US choose to have it done.
You got a source for that? You're not in the US are you?
Soldato
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I am totally fine with adults choosing what ever cosmetic bits and bobs they like...... (and lets face it it IS cosmetic imo, ) but look at it this way, I suspect a good percentage of adults have tatoos as well............. but i am not in favour of giving a child a tatoo .
(and if anything a tatoo is less permanent than having your hood cut!.
I will say 1 thing however.... sure chat about it, it is interesting i think hearing other peoples opinions, but nothing anyone says here on the matter - or likely anywhere else - is going to change opinions. This is one of those things which i dare say 99.99% of peoples minds are made up on.
I almost had to have one - I can remember - vaguely - visiting the doctors now and her playing with my foreskin (as an adult i would need to pay for that now
) but it was decided there was no medical need.regarding the story and the picture.... I really feel for the little lad. I know the parents are just doing what they think is best and I dont bear them any ill will or anything, but just think what must have been going through the poor kids mind at the time.
https://www.menshealthforum.org.uk/circumcision-faqs
I googled this so I'm sure you'll find some variance in the percentage from different sources but the overall impression is that most men in the US have it done.
You full well know my background so I don't see why you're asking me. Male circumcision adult or neonatal extends across cultures, religions and countries. I'll let you and Evangelion debate over FGM. Which is predominantly a central African phenomenon (Christian, muslim, other) and internationally agreed upon as unacceptable for the reasons I mentioned in the earlier posts.
I think @dowie was referring to the amount of men in the US who choose to have it done in later life, vs simply - the amount of males who are circumcised from birth/toddler age who are not making an actual choice, and are forced because of religion or backward health polices (something the US is pretty well known for)
(although I'm so ****** from jetlag, having just returned from LA 5 hours ago...)
(although I'm so ****** from jetlag, having just returned from LA 5 hours ago...)
@Screeeech yup indeed
@Buddy you didn't actually answer this question in reference to your statement that you're glad you had it done:
ref your claim above:
That is rather different though - I think you'll find they mostly didn't make that choice themselves but had it done to them as boys/infants!
@Buddy you didn't actually answer this question in reference to your statement that you're glad you had it done:
ref your claim above:
That is rather different though - I think you'll find they mostly didn't make that choice themselves but had it done to them as boys/infants!
Soldato
It's a barbaric practise and should be banned unless required for medical reasons.
How do they circumcise a whale? Send down four skin divers.
How do they circumcise a whale? Send down four skin divers.
Soldato
Infant circumcision should be banned. Religious freedom - what a load of bull.
If someone wants to lop it off once they're an adult - then by all means. But doing it to a child because some storyteller 1000 years ago though it was a good idea is ridiculous.
If someone wants to lop it off once they're an adult - then by all means. But doing it to a child because some storyteller 1000 years ago though it was a good idea is ridiculous.
Caporegime
I'd be up there too kiddo.
Soldato
So the fact is that c. 80% of US males are circumcised, the vast majority of which had it done as an infant. Don't really see anything to debate here Buddy.
It should be banned unless medically necessary imo.
It should be banned unless medically necessary imo.
I suggest you read it again. Slowly.
Rate of neonatal circumcision is falling (33%).
Adult men are choosing to do it (80%).
Why are grown men choosing to do it if it's so barbaric and unsafe?
Caporegime
Stupidity.
Grown men smoke. Grown men drink to the point of drunkeness. Grown men take drugs. All dumb things.
130 million US men are dumb? Ahan.
Perhaps they've balanced up the advantages vs the low risks then decided to join the Pretty Willy Crew.
You're welcome to join. Embrace it.
Caporegime
Religious freedom, but no freedom for the kid who won't necessarily grow up to BE religious...
People shouldn't mess with the body. It is the way it is for a reason and is the result of millions of years of evolution and natural selection. It doesn't need "fixing".
Soldato
Your refence:
To put it simply, this does not say "80% of adult males are choosing to be circumcised".
I can also run the numbers for your simply if you prefer. Starting with the basics, if 33% of babies are being circumcised today, a level actually lower than 5 years ago, how can 80% of adult males be electing circumcision. The maths works something like this: 100% - 33% = 67%
I could go further but I will leave it there....