Good Value ?

needleworks · 17 Jul 2019 at 13:16

Apologies if this is inappropriate but my son has asked me if this is a good deal !

He has found a gaming pc for sale on facebook and is unsure if it would be a good start for a gaming pc.
Specs as follows.

Case: Fractal Design R6 with Tempered Glass
CPU: AMD Ryzen 1600
Motherboard: Gigabyte AX370 - Gaming K7
RAM: 16GB 3000mhz DDR4 (Dominator Platinum)
GPU: ASUS 1070 Strix Edition
Storage: 1x480gb and 1x120gb SSD's
Cooling: Corsair H100i V2
Monitor: Acer KG271

According to the pictures, (there is one showing the build cost) which comes to £1667, and he is selling for £850
It would be my sons own money and I am not qualified enough to advise him. Any help gratefully accepted.

tamzzy · 17 Jul 2019 at 13:22

nah. that's terribly overpriced. wouldn't pay more than £600 used for the lot.

orbitalwalsh · 17 Jul 2019 at 13:26

@needleworks

x370 aorus k7 has 6 Vcore phases , ir3553 rated at 40 amps so have 240 amps across the vcore which isn't to bad and better then most 90% of B450 boards and 50% of X470 boards

HAMMER IT DOWN as @tamzzy mentioned then stick a £188 ryzen 3600 in it! haha

f40 and f41c bios update

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K7-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

build costs for hardware go out the window when new gens come in! ignore what they built it for and react to current market now

needleworks · 17 Jul 2019 at 13:30

thanks guys, much appreciated.

orbitalwalsh · 17 Jul 2019 at 13:39

needleworks said:
thanks guys, much appreciated.

food for thought !

BB CODE
My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x MSI B450M Mortar (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £88.99
1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £69.95
1 x Gigabyte UD Pro 512GB SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Toshiba 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £55.99
1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £338.99
1 x **B Grade** Bitfenix Formula Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £54.95
1 x Kolink Citadel Micro-ATX Case - Black= £37.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £188.99

Total: £848.45 (includes shipping: £12.60)

no monitor or keyboard.. but hits home! plus you'd have warranty !

vega 56 for £250 and £100 towards a screen..

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £69.95
1 x Gigabyte UD Pro 512GB SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Toshiba 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £55.99
1 x **B Grade** Bitfenix Formula Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £54.95
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600 3.90GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £139.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherbaord= £70.00
1 x Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 Pulse 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11276-02-40G)= £248.99
1 x Acer KG241P 24" 1920x1080 TN 144Hz FreeSync 1ms Gaming Widescreen LED Gaming Monitor= £144.95
1 x Zalman S2 Midi Tower Case - Black Window= £31.99

Total: £836.43 (includes shipping: £19.62)

some b-grade items used but still have longer warranty at 30/90 days then buying an old system off an unknown etc

Journey · 17 Jul 2019 at 13:51

needleworks said:
Case: Fractal Design R6 with Tempered Glass
CPU: AMD Ryzen 1600 - £99 new
Motherboard: Gigabyte AX370 - Gaming K7- Better board for £90 new.
RAM: 16GB 3000mhz DDR4 (Dominator Platinum) £65 for equivalent speed RAM
GPU: ASUS 1070 Strix Edition - <£200 will get you a card as fast
Storage: 1x480gb and 1x120gb SSD's - £45-50 worth of SSD's
Cooling: Corsair H100i V2 - £100 cooler, it looks nice but complete overkill for the system
Monitor: Acer KG271- Terribad, £159 new.

Total cost to buy new equivalent is ~£750, lose the cooler and it's down another £100, so £650 with a full warranty. I'd say it's worth £550, no mention of the PSU, could be awful.

needleworks · 17 Jul 2019 at 13:56

food for thought !

I certainly see where you are coming from mate, but I don't know if I would have the confidence to actually build it !
The thing that was attracting him (and me) was the fact that it was already built, and ready to just plug in and play.

orbitalwalsh · 17 Jul 2019 at 13:56

Journey said:
Total cost to buy new equivalent is ~£750, lose the cooler and it's down another £100, so £650 with a full warranty. I'd say it's worth £550, no mention of the PSU, could be awful.

think i managed not to bad with the above- some B-Grade to keep it down

its all these 2nd hand sales highlighting how much it DID cost.. not whats it is worth now lol

say only good things are the K7 and 1070- k7 being bettered only by MSI/Aorus B450 ITX and higher end x470 boards

Steveocee · 17 Jul 2019 at 14:04

needleworks said:
I certainly see where you are coming from mate, but I don't know if I would have the confidence to actually build it !
The thing that was attracting him (and me) was the fact that it was already built, and ready to just plug in and play.

False economy as when it goes wrong you end up pulling it apart anyway. May as well build it from the ground up.

Shawreyboy · 17 Jul 2019 at 14:07

needleworks said:
I certainly see where you are coming from mate, but I don't know if I would have the confidence to actually build it !
The thing that was attracting him (and me) was the fact that it was already built, and ready to just plug in and play.

YouTube is your friend - plenty of how to guides! also, don't discount the manuals that come with the parts - they often have pictorials that show you where things go.

A PC is literally like building with Lego also, generally things only go in one way so if it doesn't easily slot into where its supposed to go it probably shouldn't go there.
(just don't forget the Motherboard standoffs inside the case if they aren't pre-installed).

Shawrey