RTX 2070 Super, What Next?

winngames · 18 Jul 2019 at 21:14

Hi All,

I've recently upgraded from 1060 6gb to the RTX 2070 super and although games are more playable i feel like something in my system is holding me back, thinking ram speed / processor. Any suggestions would be great.

i was thinking i could upgrade the ram to 3200mhz but not sure how much of an impact this would have on performance

Poneros · 18 Jul 2019 at 21:19

Without a doubt the CPU BUT we need to know games & settings.

melmac · 18 Jul 2019 at 21:20

winngames said:
Hi All,

I've recently upgraded from 1060 6gb to the RTX 2070 super and although games are more playable i feel like something in my system is holding me back, thinking ram speed / processor. Any suggestions would be great.

i was thinking i could upgrade the ram to 3200mhz but not sure how much of an impact this would have on performance

What resolution are you playing at? 1080p or 1440p?

winngames · 18 Jul 2019 at 21:31

Poneros said:
Without a doubt the CPU BUT we need to know games & settings.

bit of everything really (F1 2019, Battlefield 5, Assassins Creed, The Witcher)

I only play at 1080p at the moment

Hedge · 18 Jul 2019 at 21:34

winngames said:
bit of everything really (F1 2019, Battlefield 5, Assassins Creed, The Witcher)

I only play at 1080p at the moment

Unless you were playing at 1440p+ then I doubt a gpu upgrade would ever have impressed you much.

MartinPrince · 18 Jul 2019 at 21:39

Hedge said:
Unless you were playing at 1440p+ then I doubt a gpu upgrade would ever have impressed you much.

Indeed, though you really can't go a 'feeling'. Did you do benchmarks before and after in the games that you play? Your RAM speed does seem a bit slow at 2400Mhz for the 1000 series though I'm no expert.

Poneros · 18 Jul 2019 at 21:41

winngames said:
bit of everything really (F1 2019, Battlefield 5, Assassins Creed, The Witcher)

I only play at 1080p at the moment

Yup, definitely the CPU. Could use an R5 3600 instead. RAM also quite slow sadly, though it might be tricky to get fast ram in that mobo. At least in the meantime you might want to just up resolution/render scale, enjoy some extra eye candy. Would probably advise you to cap FPS to 60 as well (weird behaviour otherwise, sometimes).

winngames · 18 Jul 2019 at 21:45

MartinPrince said:
Indeed, though you really can't go a 'feeling'. Did you do benchmarks before and after in the games that you play? Your RAM speed does seem a bit slow at 2400Mhz for the 1000 series though I'm no expert.

Unfortunately not, but I can now play all of those games with everything maxed out at 1080p (struggled to get solid 60 with low-medium with 1060 6gb). With the 2070 I'm experiencing some weird issues in games but I'm putting that down to teething problems with new cards and drivers

Poneros said:
Yup, definitely the CPU. Could use an R5 3600 instead. RAM also quite slow sadly, though it might be tricky to get fast ram in that mobo. At least in the meantime you might want to just up resolution/render scale, enjoy some extra eye candy. Would probably advise you to cap FPS to 60 as well (weird behaviour otherwise, sometimes).

the motherboard supports 3200mhz max :/ my computer was originally a budget build

Rofflay · 18 Jul 2019 at 23:32

That is why you should make the next one around a strong case psu and cpu etc probably best you save for PCI 4.0 Ryzen with a 800w psu. Then you can swap the graphics without worry next time.

TLDR spend on everything but the gpu first time around imo.

melmac · 19 Jul 2019 at 00:03

winngames said:
bit of everything really (F1 2019, Battlefield 5, Assassins Creed, The Witcher)

I only play at 1080p at the moment

I would get a new monitor that supports 1440P resolution. Your CPU is a major bottleneck at 1080P.

Zernath · 19 Jul 2019 at 00:11

melmac said:
I would get a new monitor that supports 1440P resolution. Your CPU is a major bottleneck at 1080P.

This.

That card is really for higher resolutions anyway, so grab yourself a nice 1440p monitor.

winngames · 19 Jul 2019 at 01:24

Zernath said:
This.

That card is really for higher resolutions anyway, so grab yourself a nice 1440p monitor.

I think that is probably the best option for me for now, I'm long overdue a new monitor and I haven't really got the money for a new processor, psu and ram.

Any idea on how much performance I could be losing sticking with 1600 for now? From what I have found online it's looking around 20-30%

I know there's no such thing a future proofing with tech but hopefully i will get a good few years out of this card

melmac · 19 Jul 2019 at 11:26

What make/model is your current monitor?

varkanoid · 19 Jul 2019 at 12:40

and is it 60hz or higher ?

winngames · 19 Jul 2019 at 13:04

varkanoid said:
and is it 60hz or higher ?

Current monitor is Samsung S23A700 - 120hz. its about 8 years old.

Gripen90 · 19 Jul 2019 at 15:10

A ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 2700 would be a good companion along with 3200MHz ram.

Yet I am pretty sure you are even limiting/bottleknecking your Ryzen 5 1600 CPU right now with just 2400MHz ram. I am sure if you get 3200/3000MHz ram, your R5 1600 will really stretch it's legs.

HeX · 19 Jul 2019 at 15:21

That memory will probably OC to 2800+ if you have a play. Will give a nice boost. Then you want to manually OC that 1600 as high as you can (~3.8-4.0 should be doable).

winngames · 21 Jul 2019 at 21:48

Thanks everyone for the advice, I've managed to oc to 3.9 stable and the ram to 2800 which has significantly improved frame rate. however in games BF5 the game stutters / freezes for about a second and the cpu usage shoots up from around 70% to 95%

looks like i will have to upgrade to see the benefit of this card.

UserBenchmarks: Game 114%, Desk 95%, Work 93%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 91.6%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070-Super - 136.9%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 112.5%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB (2016) - 97.6%
RAM: Crucial BLS8G4D240FSA.16FBD 2x8GB - 102.5%
MBD: Asus TUF B350M-PLUS GAMING

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/18596879

melmac · 21 Jul 2019 at 21:58

winngames said:
Current monitor is Samsung S23A700 - 120hz. its about 8 years old.

Great monitor, I still have one too. It still looks like new and hasn't given any problems whatsoever. Amazing picture quality.