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Well at least that all the new stuff out for a while now - 2080S completely underwhelming but a bit more competition in the mid-range between 2070 and 5700.
 
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Just no point in the 80 Super, or the non Super 80 tbh, as the 80 Supers hardly any faster than the non, and the 2070 Super is as fast as the non. :p

Unless they crash the price of the non 80s, they'll never get shot of em :D
 
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Heads up - Looks like the 2070S FE is back in stock at NV. I've already bought other things now, but if anyone was after the FE specifically (because it's pretty), it seems to be available right now. Doubt it will last long.

Of course it's not as fast as the ASUS that Gibbo has on offer here, but it is a nice looking card and I really wanted one until I talked myself into buying a 2080 Ti...

It does look beautiful and it is tempting at £475 but it's always going to be at a serious disadvantage over pretty much all aftermarket cards unfortunately.
 
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Always seemed likely that the 2080S would be the dud of the bunch, given the tiny increase in CUDA cores. 5-6% is a joke. Roll on next year...
 
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The 2080s should be no more than £550.
Looking at the spec between the 2080 and the 2080S, the difference are SO small that one would think that Nvidia is just trying to give as little extra as possible, while shamelessly and desperately trying to have the 80 card clinch onto the close to £700 price point.

Also clearly they are deliberately holding back on the performance on the 2080S, as they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot and end up hurting the 2080ti sales.
 
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It does look beautiful and it is tempting at £475 but it's always going to be at a serious disadvantage over pretty much all aftermarket cards unfortunately.

If you look at aftermarket 2070S are either the same, some barely better and some even worse, cooler depending.
If we take the Nvidia whole lineup the 2070S is great product, however when we factor in AMD 5700XT, especially the upcoming AIB cards..... depends the price.

Same case for the 2080S AIB cards. The cooler gives them an extra 13-15Mhz operating clocks.
Here is the Palit one, against the FE and the MSI TrioX while overclocked.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_rtx_2080_super_gamerock_le_review,23.html

Is 100 points is just within margin of error if the room was warmer or some background service decided to look at the internet for update.


And food for thought. That 2080S is 17% faster than the blower 5700XT operating at 1800Mhz (avg speed out of the box)....And the latter can overclock by more than 17% with better cooling.
 
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Also clearly they are deliberately holding back on the performance on the 2080S, as they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot and end up hurting the 2080ti sales.
Well, this is now the full TU104 die, so they're not holding anything back in that respect. The only way they could have pushed further than this is by moving it to TU102 and cutting that down as necessary, but that's a much larger, much more expensive to manufacture die and it would have eaten into the no doubt enormous profit they make on these. Combined with the fact that they have literally no competition in this price/performance bracket now that Radeon VII's dead, it was rather inevitable that this would happen. They have likely close to a solid year to gouge people as hard as possible now, with Big Navi and their own 7nm cards not due until some time in 2020. I suppose you can't blame them for milking people for every penny that they can - especially when those people have proven so eager to be milked in the past.
 
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