BT Infinity Network Infrastructure - The reason behind BT being the worst UK ISP for gaming

Caporegime
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Sky don't own the network, they rent off Openreach, same as BT.

It's just down to general routing paths.
They rent the ‘last mile’ from Openreach. That is from the property to the exchange. Within the exchange Sky have their own DSLAM and cablelink to their own Network. This where most of the routing on Skys network is done.
 
Soldato
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We have BT TV too.

I think it depends on what is being watched simultaneously then. BT You view or whatever it is I "think" is a forwarded protocol off their main network? I seem to remember it's not directly streaming unless using inbuilt apps. The issue exists when real streaming is involved from the likes of Netflix, SkyGo, iPlayer, Twitch, YouTube etc.
 
Soldato
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Hmm... I got the below:

Tracing route to 134.213.37.197 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Local IP
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms Local IP
3 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms My external IP
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 21 ms 24 ms 21 ms 31.55.185.188
6 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms core1-hu0-8-0-5.colindale.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.127.146]
7 35 ms 27 ms 23 ms peer2-et0-0-1.slough.ukcore.bt.net [62.172.103.202]
8 21 ms 20 ms 26 ms 195.66.224.116
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 24 ms 21 ms 21 ms 134.213.131.251
11 24 ms 24 ms 27 ms corec-corea.lon5.rackspace.net [162.13.232.10]
12 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms corea-core6.lon3.rackspace.net [164.177.137.13]
13 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms aggr331b-4-aggr331a-4.lon3.rackspace.net [31.222.133.163]
14 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 134.213.37.197

But I remember the days of playing Aces High with 300ms pings and the joy when it went down to 100 ms. Kids these days...
 
Caporegime
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Yeah but you're in Aberdeen which is adding a significant amount of distance and hops that someone in e.g. London won't have to deal with.
 
Soldato
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FTTP Circuit at work

Traceroute has started…

traceroute to 134.213.37.197 (134.213.37.197), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
1 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 1.389 ms 0.951 ms 0.942 ms
2 lo1.tcw-bng1.warwick.net.uk (94.125.133.95) 8.415 ms 8.327 ms 8.467 ms
3 94.125.133.144 (94.125.133.144) 9.143 ms 8.538 ms 8.373 ms
4 cs-01.tcwil.as42689.net (77.244.139.142) 8.855 ms 16.517 ms 11.026 ms
5 cr-01.ixn.as42689.net (77.244.141.194) 13.827 ms 13.566 ms 16.461 ms
6 cr-01.rbsov.as42689.net (77.244.141.209) 14.076 ms 13.844 ms 14.009 ms
7 195.66.224.116 (195.66.224.116) 15.446 ms 15.587 ms 15.495 ms
8 10.25.3.141 (10.25.3.141) 19.185 ms 16.986 ms 16.339 ms
9 134.213.131.251 (134.213.131.251) 15.502 ms 15.547 ms 15.763 ms
10 corec-corea.lon5.rackspace.net (162.13.232.10) 16.325 ms 16.722 ms 16.273 ms
11 corea-core6.lon3.rackspace.net (164.177.137.13) 16.713 ms 19.512 ms 16.271 ms
12 aggr331b-4-aggr331a-4.lon3.rackspace.net (31.222.133.163) 17.674 ms 17.057 ms 17.181 ms
13 134.213.37.197 (134.213.37.197) 17.616 ms 15.823 ms 15.811 ms

CableCom clearly aren't doing things incredibly correct :p
 
Associate
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you mean bt are looking into a different issue, gaming priority when the line is being used for other things, not how many hops there are to a server like this thread topic.

The latency/lag issues some people are having whilst gaming are due to an issue with BT's core network. One of those hops on the BT traceroutes could be responsible so they are directly related.
 
Soldato
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Never knew there was an issue as I've barely gamed since it started on BT. Good that it'll probably be fixed before it becomes an issue for me.

As for the traceroute ping, BT has always kind of been crap for that tbh.
 
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