AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[BoomAM]

How is your board getting on with RAM speeds and Ryzen 3K? Any difficulties hitting 3400~3600MT/s ?

I'm on the verge of ordering a Ryzen 3000 based kit for someone and might snag a 3600x for myself (they're cheaper at the moment and binning is probably worth the extra given likely better resale value / better included heatsink).

Unfortunately i cant help with that one, i run at stock.
Both my 16Gb PC3200 G-Skill Kit and the 32Gb Corsair LPX i bought today however detect via DOCP, and seem stable, not that that probably helps

 

[Troezar]

Sounds like ASUS owners are having more problems at the moment. Fingers crossed I seem to be on a good combination of BIOS and drivers with my Aorus Master. Need to do some more testing but I'm happy so far that I'm close to 9900K territory in Cinebench.

 

[pcfarrar]

However, boot from cold, run Hwinfo, send it to sleep, wake, check hwinfo and the sensor updates have frozen. Hwinfo subsequently won't close down properly or start up again; always waiting for a svhost.exe to respond.
After this, other monitoring software usually fails to access the sensors.
Only recourse is a reboot, though the system fails to power down properly. Need to hold in the power button to force the ATX power off signal.

I’ve also experienced this issue with my X470 Prime Pro. It’s not happened since I upgraded to a 3700x but I guess that’s probably due to me not using hwinfo as much.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

Still recommended to get the b450 carbon ac over the tomahawk (MAX?) even with the more basic bios? Is it just more basic looking or does it lack any features? Already got 3700x on order.

 

[DragonQ]

Still recommended to get the b450 carbon ac over the tomahawk (MAX?) even with the more basic bios? Is it just more basic looking or does it lack any features? Already got 3700x on order.

It lacks RAID but MSI are meant to be restoring that feature at some point. Not sure if anything else is missing.

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

MSI are completely missing any BIOS updates since Ryzen 3000 launch.
There's been complete radio silence except for "we're launching MAX versions of some of our B450 and X470 boards...at some undefined point in time."

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

One of the recent Hardware Unboxed Q&A's they said wait for the MAX versions, but MSI said there won't be any of the carbon ac. It's not clear what is different with the bios exactly though apart from it looking more basic.

Still dunno what board to get.

 

[Phate]

Still dunno what board to get.

Gigabyte or ASRock

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

Gigabyte or ASRock

If you mean x570 boards they start to get a bit pricey but the Elite isn't too bad, the RAM QVL list is lacking a bit though compared to others and Gigabyte said to use RAM listed on their QVL for any particular board.

 

[nomadd]

Still dunno what board to get.

B550 in 9 months time, once the BIOS and drivers have settled on that chipset.

No one needs to upgrade right now.

 

[welshrat]

Installed the new Asus Bios last night, all seems good, DOCP works fine with my corsair at 3200MHZ but it did before hand. to be honest I have stopped worrying about idle temps or boost and have been enjoying the system, its so bloody fast I just don't care. It plays all games at 1440p no sweat at all combined with a vega 56. all my IDE's and development software runs like a dream (postgres, mssql, android studio, visual studio, visual code, etc etc). Really happy with it all.

 

[pcfarrar]

how is memory training after reboot ?? And how is memory trainign booting from cold ?? Maybe they fixed them up a bit cause none of bioses for Crosshair motherboards made it out of forums they ware so bad. Image ME having boot problems first time from 4 bioses so far So maybe This is fixed up version after bugs we reported Even performance hit was around 4% on new ones yet less stable on memory side

It worked perfectly for me, I had cold boot issues with the previous bios but this time after installing and setting DOCP everything worked fine. I've not had time to test it fully yet though or tweak the timings.

 

[an0nym0us]

Still recommended to get the b450 carbon ac over the tomahawk (MAX?) even with the more basic bios? Is it just more basic looking or does it lack any features? Already got 3700x on order.

I think the GSE Lite BIOS also doesn't have the ability to save profiles.

 

[opethdisciple]

That's why I dont do auto... They are all ****** up cause bioses are in beta state. I noticed on 3rd row of memory timings on auto 2 values tend to change every other reset by 1 up 1 down !!!! So one reboot you are running 9 other 8 other 7 so if 7 and 8 are stable oens and 7 is too tight then you got stable system 2/3ds of time grreat init ??

No!

One thing I cant stand is an unstable PC.

 

[opethdisciple]

The new chipset drivers have been posted.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

B550 in 9 months time, once the BIOS and drivers have settled on that chipset.

No one needs to upgrade right now.

Not waiting 9 months i need a board..

 

[opethdisciple]

When Ryzen 3000 first launched the max 1:1 IF speed for ram was 3733MHz.

Is that still the case? As I've seen 3800MHz mentioned.

 

[beany_bot]

When Ryzen 3000 first launched the max 1:1 IF speed for ram was 3733MHz.

Is that still the case? As I've seen 3800MHz mentioned.

Still 3733 as far as I know.

 

[Yaayuh!]

When Ryzen 3000 first launched the max 1:1 IF speed for ram was 3733MHz.

Is that still the case? As I've seen 3800MHz mentioned.

3800/1900 is doable for a few people.

 

[DragonQ]

When Ryzen 3000 first launched the max 1:1 IF speed for ram was 3733MHz.

Is that still the case? As I've seen 3800MHz mentioned.

3733 MT/s is the maximum at stock/auto settings. You can override this but the infinity fabric maxes out at 1900 MHz (3800 MT/s) for most people.