haha yeah. i'm not going to remove the heatsinks
agree a lot is down to silicon lottery.
mine runs 3600 16-18-18-36 with 1.4v untuned (no time to tune...but very good performance anyway)
i rather spend more time playing games than tuning ram lol
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mine runs 3600 16-18-18-36 with 1.4v untuned (no time to tune...but very good performance anyway)
i rather spend more time playing games than tuning ram lol
Single rank = 8 GiB sticks, dual rank = 16 GiB sticks. Dual rank is slightly faster at a given speed, single rank tends to clock higher.
Already explained, 16 GiB sticks vs 8 GiB sticks.
2048 Mb x 64 = 131,072 Mb = 16 GiB
1024 Mb x 64 = 65,536 Mb = 8 GiB
Oh well here comes some flack my way!!!. Sorry but trying to understand why the difference and which one to choose.
BLS2K8G4D32AESCK - White - DDR4 PC4-25600 • 16-18-18 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR4-3200 • 1.35V • 1024MEG X 64 •
BLS2K8G4D32AESEK - Red - DDR4 PC4-25600 • 16-18-18 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR4-3200 • 1.35V • 2048MEG X 64 •
BLS2K8G4D32AESBK - Gray - DDR4 PC4-25600 • 16-18-18 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR4-3200 • 1.35V • 2048MEG X 64 •
All 3 sets are 16Gb (8gb x 2), all 3200mhz. Exact same timings and the exact same price.
Guess at being a memory Noob I am curious which one would be best on my current hardware. Ideally White to match my new white P600s case but Grey wouldn't be the end of the world if it makes more likely to be better for a higher frequency likelyhood.
BLS2K8G4D32AESCK - White - DDR4 PC4-25600 • 16-18-18 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR4-3200 • 1.35V • 1024MEG X 64 •
BLS2K8G4D32AESEK - Red - DDR4 PC4-25600 • 16-18-18 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR4-3200 • 1.35V • 2048MEG X 64 •
BLS2K8G4D32AESBK - Gray - DDR4 PC4-25600 • 16-18-18 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR4-3200 • 1.35V • 2048MEG X 64 •
All 3 sets are 16Gb (8gb x 2), all 3200mhz. Exact same timings and the exact same price.
Guess at being a memory Noob I am curious which one would be best on my current hardware. Ideally White to match my new white P600s case but Grey wouldn't be the end of the world if it makes more likely to be better for a higher frequency likelyhood.
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Where are you getting this information? It's probably just a typo if they're all 2x 8 GiB kits.
Here's mine. Both sticks are the same except their serial numbers.you are right,
can you post a thaiphoon burner screen ? There are micron e-die at 19nm and 16nm with different part number. I asked before in this thread, if everyone can post(please) that screen we can build a stats where are listed all oc result and part number. Is that ballistix sport LT overclock thread
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Many times i saw reviews where thaiphoon burner say D9VPP, instead under the heatsink there are C9BJZ.
Now i have a supposition, crucial load the same spd in many ram set, so thaiphoon just read and report it to the user.
For performance ram (3200cl and 3000cl15) crucial choose more performant C9BJZ to have enough testing headroom.
Now, both d9vpp and c9bjz are e-die, with the difference that c9bjz is equipped on elite 3600 (check reviews, thaiphoon still show d9vpp) and is the wr part number.
So just on paper shoul be better than d9vpp and work easily at 3600MHz.
Now i bet that almost all set of sport LT 3200cl16 and 3000cl15 have under the heatsink C9BJZ e-die (despite what thaiphoon burner say).
Did you notice on your screen is missing manufacturing date ? Is latest version of thaiphoon ?
I don't know why you have wall at 3200, of course most probable is a low binning.
Many times i saw reviews where thaiphoon burner say D9VPP, instead under the heatsink there are C9BJZ.
Now i have a supposition, crucial load the same spd in many ram set, so thaiphoon just read and report it to the user.
For performance ram (3200cl and 3000cl15) crucial choose more performant C9BJZ to have enough testing headroom.
Now, both d9vpp and c9bjz are e-die, with the difference that c9bjz is equipped on elite 3600 (check reviews, thaiphoon still show d9vpp) and is the wr part number.
So just on paper shoul be better than d9vpp and work easily at 3600MHz.
Now i bet that almost all set of sport LT 3200cl16 and 3000cl15 have under the heatsink C9BJZ e-die (despite what thaiphoon burner say).
Did you notice on your screen is missing manufacturing date ? Is latest version of thaiphoon ?
I don't know why you have wall at 3200, of course most probable is a low binning.
Their UK store hence my complete confusion. Please feel free to take a look and verify I am not going mad!.
My thaiphoon output is in the right of the image below (some older OC results)
http://imgur.com/a/j0QVaoC
http://imgur.com/a/j0QVaoC
Not sure why manufacturing date is missing. I'm using the latest version.
Interestingly, the data for my wife's kit (2x 8GiB instead of 2x 16 GiB) is almost identical:
OK well now I feel silly. I just tried setting the RAM to 3600 MT/s with Thaiphoon DRAM Calculator settings and it seems nominally stable. I guess my system has a gigantic memory hole between 3200 and 3600 MT/s?? I've tried 3266, 3333, 3400, 3466 before and all are unstable.
EDIT: 1900/3800 IF/DRAM is a no-go but 1867/3733 IF/DRAM is stable in a 15 minute stress test at least. Guess I now have to go through another round of "tighten the timings"...
EDIT: 1900/3800 IF/DRAM is a no-go but 1867/3733 IF/DRAM is stable in a 15 minute stress test at least. Guess I now have to go through another round of "tighten the timings"...
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Despite what looks like a big price increase from June, I decided to order the 2x8gb white 3200mhz.
I took my earlier question I had posted earlier to their chat support. They were completely and utterly useless that I almost paid extra for the b die but simply couldn't stomach the price after already upgrading.
Looking forward to trying to see what I can get from these. Hopefully they'll be far better than my Corsair lpx ram.
I took my earlier question I had posted earlier to their chat support. They were completely and utterly useless that I almost paid extra for the b die but simply couldn't stomach the price after already upgrading.
Looking forward to trying to see what I can get from these. Hopefully they'll be far better than my Corsair lpx ram.
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Nice to see people finally realising just how good these are, even better for those that managed to grab them at ~£25 per 8GB 
I have this kit (thanks to tamzzy's recommendation!), after seeing hardware unboxed videos about tuning all the timings I gave DRAM calculator for Ryzen a shot. Before that i just upped the speed, left timings as shipped but all I could get stable was 3533mhz at 1.36v. Even at 1.43v 3600 wasn't stable.
On the calculator I set it to Micron E-die, imported the xmp and set it to profile v1, 3400mhz on fast settings. It said something about 14-16-14 timings or something similar, so I set all the timings, upped it to 1.4v and my pc wanted nothing to do with it. Required bios flash back.
On the safe setting on profile v1 it boots but is unstable. Kinda annoying since the video said set it to fast settings and you're away. I've been playing about with it since, I was propelled by the benchmark the calculator has, the easy mode test? In stock timings at 3533mhz I got around 170 secs, now at 3400mhz I'm getting 140secs with all the new timings. I have no idea how this test affects gaming (I'm quite the noob to all this) but that's gotta be good no?
On the calculator I set it to Micron E-die, imported the xmp and set it to profile v1, 3400mhz on fast settings. It said something about 14-16-14 timings or something similar, so I set all the timings, upped it to 1.4v and my pc wanted nothing to do with it. Required bios flash back.
On the safe setting on profile v1 it boots but is unstable. Kinda annoying since the video said set it to fast settings and you're away. I've been playing about with it since, I was propelled by the benchmark the calculator has, the easy mode test? In stock timings at 3533mhz I got around 170 secs, now at 3400mhz I'm getting 140secs with all the new timings. I have no idea how this test affects gaming (I'm quite the noob to all this) but that's gotta be good no?
3400mhz isn't bad at all, what CPU are you using ?
I found with E-Die the calculator is hit and miss with stability. Most videos IV seen show it working with Samsung BDie mainly.
For me to get 3600mhz stable I set timings to 16-20-20-36 and trfc (all) to 620 and 1.38v DDR. Tested -> tuned timings down -> test repeat until I started hitting stability issues.
My cpu is a 3600. I've spent all evening on the timings and got them down to this, very pleased. 3600mhz is a no go for mine but so long as the tRCDRD is not below 18 then you can push the timings far, I think I can push it further but I'm tired.
Got my white 2x8gb 3200 E-Die installed tonight. Not knowing what I am really doing, I set everything to auto and now I am currently in windows with IF@1900 and the ram@1900(3800)
Timings are as loose as an old ex girlfriend so I'll have to learn. Twenty plus years building my own computers but ram is something I've never bothered with.
Timings are as loose as an old ex girlfriend so I'll have to learn. Twenty plus years building my own computers but ram is something I've never bothered with.