old cpu comparisons

[Bolerus]

so, I am looking to upgrade my old i7 -930 as im finally interested in a couple of games that it fails the can i run it test

that is where it gets tough

I dont have the finances to go new so I am looking at second hand markets, and now it gets murky as i have no idea what is better that what any more, so i google cpu comparrison charts ( seems reasonable)

i have seen a i7-3770 which has a passmarks score of 9,279 ( for £140 with motherbaord and 8gig ddr3 ram)

then on ebay there is a i5-4670k which is currently at £80 ( expect about 120-130?) that gets 7,635 passmarks, yeah ok, its an i5 nto i7, and a 670 v 770 can kind of understand why that is lower

but then there is also a i5-7600k that gets 9,113

so of those, that are all just in my budget, is the oldest one ( isnt the i7-3770 gen 3) really the fastest?

and is 7600 points to 9200 points really worth bothering about?

for reference my i7-930 ( which i see no slow down issues with, this is purely because some games min spec is higher now) gets 5,132


Then just to add more confusion, in the market here somebody is selling a ryzen 5 1600 which gets 12,286 points, and blows them all away ( but for sale is only the cpu so would need motherboard, memory, cooler etc)


HELP

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

You could get one of those cheap six core Xeons and use it in your current motherboard to get a bit of an extra performance boost??

Regarding a new CPU - you could get a Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 5 2600,motherboard and 16GB of DDR4 for around £200 to £250.

 

[ljt]

The i7 3770 scores higher than the i5 4670k purely because it's got 8 threads compared to 4 threads on the i5. There isn't a great deal of IPC uplift between 3rd gen and 4th gen, but HT adds about 25% to synthetic benchmark scores.

Depending on the games you're struggling with, then having HT can help to spread the load so to speak.

The reason the 7600k scores close to the 3770, is because you have a few generations of IPC uplift (although nothing groundbreaking) and it also clocks about 400Mhz higher than the other 2 CPU's, so it makes up the difference in clock speed.

The Ryzen 1600 scores more than both because its got a total of 12 threads compared to the 4 and 8 of the others.


Ideally we need to know which games are struggling and an exact budget to help decide what the best course of action is.

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

£15 for an X5650 and should overclock to 4.4ghz (maybe more maybe less) and it's 6 cores and 12 threads. No brainer for x58 owners and whilst it wont have the single core strength of modern CPU's, it will certainly play pretty much everything with decent FPS when paired with a good GPU. I was using one before I upgraded to an AMD 2700x and average FPS wasn't far behind.

 

[Bolerus]

i am thinking of getting the new COD when it comes out, which has a min spec of i5-2500K
i was looking at pubg which has a min spec of Core i5-4430

i dont own any games that wont run yet, but i am bored of all my old games and am looking for some new onces, hence looking at can you run it, because i know my cpu is gettign on a bit

graphics card wise, currently have a nvidia 670, but just bought a second hand amd rx580 ( came this morning) decided to go amd because i bought a 27" monitor that has freesync built in

* not sure if my motherbaord supports my new graphics card, if not ill haev to buy one anyway*

im at work at the moment, but ill check my motherbaord compatibility later, to see if it will support the zeon chips

budget wise, I dont want to go over £200

not sure if it makes much of an impact, but the new monitor is a 75hz refresh rate jobby


so far teh only game i have bought that it wouldnt run was black ops 4, but my laptop would ( that has a nvidia 870 in it)

 

[Vince]

You could get one of those cheap six core Xeons and use it in your current motherboard to get a bit of an extra performance boost??

Regarding a new CPU - you could get a Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 5 2600,motherboard and 16GB of DDR4 for around £200 to £250.

I got a ryzen 5 1600 (with cooler) + B450 MB + RAM for £140 which I then gave away! Cheap deals on ryzen are out there!

 

[LeMson]

£15 for an X5650 and should overclock to 4.4ghz (maybe more maybe less) and it's 6 cores and 12 threads. No brainer for x58 owners and whilst it wont have the single core strength of modern CPU's, it will certainly play pretty much everything with decent FPS when paired with a good GPU. I was using one before I upgraded to an AMD 2700x and average FPS wasn't far behind.

This! brilliant chip, should keep you going for a while longer, get cracking

 

[Armageus]

£15 for an X5650 and should overclock to 4.4ghz (maybe more maybe less) and it's 6 cores and 12 threads. No brainer for x58 owners and whilst it wont have the single core strength of modern CPU's, it will certainly play pretty much everything with decent FPS when paired with a good GPU. I was using one before I upgraded to an AMD 2700x and average FPS wasn't far behind.

X5650 £9 these days! No brainer

Overclocked it will achieve over 9000 passmark

 

[EdwardTeach]

Just get a xeon, something like a 5650 or 5670.

I have a5670 and it runs all current games. The critical component for games is the gpu.

 

[MaXxBoulton]

Just get a xeon, something like a 5650 or 5670.

This depending on the motherboard you have. If you can over clock

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I got a ryzen 5 1600 (with cooler) + B450 MB + RAM for £140 which I then gave away! Cheap deals on ryzen are out there!

Was it when Gigabyte were doing those deals on the B450 motherboards??

 

[Vince]

Was it when Gigabyte were doing those deals on the B450 motherboards??

No I just picked one up second hand... all of these were second hand.

 

[Bolerus]

Thanks guys,. I'll check my mb when I get home.

 

[AMDPower]

Buy a Xeon X5675 or X5650 as others have suggested they overclock to 4.2-4.4 and for £10-£15 you would be crazy not to try this first.

What motherboard you got? Make sure you flash it to latest BIOS first.

I have one running at 4.2ghz and play everything well enough with 1080TI @4k. I believe this would give you all the performance you need the current high prices of gfx cards and motherboard made me not upgrade, will do a big upgrade next year. No doubt new stuff is faster but try a new cpu and if you need more performance then upgrade but if it does everything you want then why bother unless you like shiny new computer.

Look for a thread in the cpu section about xeons

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/1366-x58-xeon-5650.18618052/page-179

 

[Bolerus]

just checked my motherboard, and it will support
X5550 - AT80602000771AA / BX80602X5550
X5550, 2.66 GHz, L3 8 MB, TDP 95 Watt, 0.045 micron F12 1.0

X5560 - AT80602000768AA / BX80602X5560
X5560, 2.8 GHz, L3 8 MB, TDP 95 Watt, 0.045 micron F12 1.0

X5570 - AT80602000765AA / BX80602X5570

I will have a look for one of them, I would imagine ebay is the best place?

 

[Bolerus]

just as a double check, will all of them overclock the same, so im best going for the 5570 ?

 

[AMDPower]

no those are wrong, all those are 4 core cpu.

you want X5670, X5650, X5675 and X5680 and X5690 if i am not wrong

Just look for X5675 or X5670 or X5650 not worth paying for anything extra, the X5675 has higher multiplier so if you don't have to clock the fsb high.

ebay is best place.

what motherboard you have?
if you look up your board manufacturer BIOS page and see if there is a bios that says XEON cpu compatability or something like that. I am sure it should work since you hace 4 core xeon cpu compatability already. You could but it and try and if it does not work then flash the BIOS to the latest stable one and it should work.

however there have been on the rare case that they don't work for some but its very rare

 

[Bolerus]

my motherboard is a Gigabyte ex58-ud5

I have never installed any bios updates.

the list i posted above was from their cpu compatibility page

 

[AMDPower]

I have same motherboard, can you look in your manual to find out what revision board you have. You have to be careful to flash the correct BIOS on the correct board revision.

The board you have will work with them no problem.

Flashing BIOS is not hard just need USB stick.

 

[Bolerus]

dont have the manual unfortunatly, (had this board for about 6 years). will it say physically on the board