Poll: Italian Grand Prix 2019, Monza - Race 14/21

[Ysmalari]

I don't remember it as such. I remember it as thrilling sessions between Montoya and Schumacher, etc (for example) who exchanged fastest laps during the entire 60 minutes.
It was constant lap improvement over the whole duration of the session.
No one had waited the end, I don't remember such a thing.

Perhaps not at tracks such as Monaco and Hungary but I do remember it at Spa and Monza for the exact same reasons as yesterday's farce.

 

[rubberduck]

Good decision by stewards on vettels lap!

 

[an0nym0us]

On a similar way Bottas's lift under yellow flags must have been microscopic if at all. I'd love to see footage of that too.

I assume this should be easily identified from telemetry. But then again, who knows what the stewards are basing their decisions on.

 

[JRS]

Hell, go back to the truly dire one-at-a-time qually from 2003-05. Yeah, it was mostly a lousy spectacle. But no more whining about blocking, or timing issues, and once in a while it left a car wildly out of position and briefly provided some interest.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

We had two types of dire.

One an open 60 minute session, no one would go out for the first 30-50 minutes.

Each car gets 1 lap each and they go in turn. You just watch one car at a time - and let’s be honest, most people only care about the top 2-3 teams. It was almost worse.

Q1-3 works well, except now that this tow situation has become an issue.

 

[JRS]

Could always do away with Friday practice (and P3 on Saturday mornings) entirely, replace them with a two hour session on each day with the number of laps you can do only limited by the number of tyres that you have. Best time overall determines your grid spot. If you can't get in a clean lap in all that time then you deserve to be mired in mid-grid.

 

[an0nym0us]

Anyone know what Leclerc was referring to regarding whether he can "get out"?:

Leclerc: What happened with Seb? Where is he?
To Leclerc: He is P4. You are P1, Hamilton P2, Bottas P3, Sebastian P4.
Leclerc: ****. Can I get out?
To Leclerc: The only one doing the one lap at the end was Sainz, no one else.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/09/07...-reveal-how-f1s-qualifying-shambles-unfolded/

 

[CSMonkeh]

So we’re gonna abandon a relatively successful format based on one session where a series of unfortunate events created a situation.
Let’s face it all precipitated from Raikkonen crashing at just the wrong time.
Let’s keep it as it is!
However the penalties for the 3 drivers to indeed seem rather lenient....
Roll on 2:10...

 

[JBeck]

So we’re gonna abandon a relatively successful format based on one session where a series of unfortunate events created a situation.

It's not one session, this has been building up to what we had yesterday.

The format is fine agreed but something needs to be done in Q3 to stop it happening again, perhaps enforce the rule that teammates cannot be behind one another at the start of the lap, or toss a coin and run them in the order they are given *shrug*.

 

[jonneymendoza]

So we’re gonna abandon a relatively successful format based on one session where a series of unfortunate events created a situation.
Let’s face it all precipitated from Raikkonen crashing at just the wrong time.
Let’s keep it as it is!
However the penalties for the 3 drivers to indeed seem rather lenient....
Roll on 2:10...

What? abandon what? link please?

 

[CSMonkeh]

It's not one session, this has been building up to what we had yesterday.

The format is fine agreed but something needs to be done in Q3 to stop it happening again, perhaps enforce the rule that teammates cannot be behind one another at the start of the lap, or toss a coin and run them in the order they are given *shrug*.

So which team goes first? Last in constructors first out?

What? abandon what? link please?

Nothing is actually being abandoned. Just talk on this forum of ideas

 

[Kanpai]

On board from Leclerc of his pole lap:

(Is it me or does it sound like he lifted a bit before crossing the line?)

 

[GravyMonster]

The timing line is the one at the back of the grid, just past the Heineken gantry, not the start/finish line, so he was well across that when he lifted.

The timer is badly synced up in the UI, as most of the graphics/sound has been since Liberty took over, but that's a rant for another time.

 

[JBeck]

So which team goes first? Last in constructors first out?

Wouldn't really matter if teammates weren't permitted behind each other, the whole point they did what they did was to tow each other. Otherwise coin toss it is!

 

[Mr Jack]

So we’re gonna abandon a relatively successful format based on one session where a series of unfortunate events created a situation.

The current format is decent, I think, but we could do better. I'd like to see the Formula E format adopted, personally.

 

[CSMonkeh]

Wouldn't really matter if teammates weren't permitted behind each other, the whole point they did what they did was to tow each other. Otherwise coin toss it is!

They did what they did as the first person won’t get a tow but others behind him will. That’s why Hulkenburg dived down the escape road as he realised he was first and thus be at a disadvantage.
Team-mates slipstreaming around Monza has been around for years because of the nature of the track. They did the same at Indy when the US GP was there.

 

[MissChief]

They did what they did as the first person won’t get a tow but others behind him will. That’s why Hulkenburg dived down the escape road as he realised he was first and thus be at a disadvantage.
Team-mates slipstreaming around Monza has been around for years because of the nature of the track. They did the same at Indy when the US GP was there.

Happens at Spa along Kemmel too. It’s not anything new.

 

[JBeck]

They did what they did as the first person won’t get a tow but others behind him will. That’s why Hulkenburg dived down the escape road as he realised he was first and thus be at a disadvantage.
Team-mates slipstreaming around Monza has been around for years because of the nature of the track. They did the same at Indy when the US GP was there.

It's not just a monza thing though and i know you can get a tow from anyone but two teammates together just magnifies the problem.

 

[JBeck]

Happens at Spa along Kemmel too. It’s not anything new.

This.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Why oh why do sky love rosberg. Like max and Hamilton have said, he’s irrelevant, go away. Such a smarmy face.