Caporegime
Clearly missing the point. Both facial hair and periods are largely inevitable. How you deal with each is the variable. There are free/low cost methods for both.
Menopausal women - labour
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Clearly missing the point. Both facial hair and periods are largely inevitable. How you deal with each is the variable. There are free/low cost methods for both.
Caporegime
Should men get time off for the flop? That's upsetting and life changing.
I suppose I fell into that for emphasising emotion.
It depends. If it doesn’t have physical symptoms that affects work and being comfortable, then it should only really be of concern to an employer in respect of stress and mental health. Perhaps erectile dysfunction will cause someone considerable stress? Although there is a pill for that. Plus, I’ve not been required to whip out a rock hard marrow-like semi, at work, for quite some time - unlikely to interfere with most jobs, I’d suggest, quite unlike symptoms of feeling physically sick that you get with things like the menopause.
Caporegime
I'd feel pretty physically sick if I couldn't get it up!
There are also pills to aid with menopause. Its also worth noting that, as I stated earlier, not all women get the ill effects described.
We already have a system in place to deal with people not feeling well enough to work - sick pay. Why change what aint broke?
Soldato
Perhaps I misunderstood, is that Scotland alone? I thought a similar plan was implemented in England too? Or was that just hot air from HMG again?
I understand your point, I just don't consider dealing with facial styling and a woman dealing with a period is comparable.
Caporegime
Why not? Both are near inevitable, have hygiene and sociological impacts. Perfectly compatible.
The suggested policy is just offering women flexible hours during this time period, isn’t it? Flexible hours isn’t an extension of sick pay, so I don’t really see the problem. I imagine many people wouldn’t take up the offer. It’s just there for those that are suffering.
Oh, speaking of flexible hours, I got an out of office this week that said the person worked 3 afternoons a week. I did find that a bit lol. Meanwhile, in my team, those people on 4 day weeks are, in reality, on 7 day weeks \o/
Yeah, my workplace sucks.
Caporegime
I agree it's not necessarily a problem but that the option should not just be confined to a specific demographic. If you are to offer a benefit it should be to all. For example, it's been shown that younger workers benefit from later starts, parents may benefit too.
Soldato
Perhaps if you canvas some women's opinions on why it may be different, they will be able to explain in detail why they are not comparable.
Yup and I also think for professional roles then really it’s a case of being in the office or available during core hours (say 10-4) and beyond that if you do the work then meh. Just allows people to do school runs, get the boiler man in, all that crap that a strict 9-5 gets in the way of.
In reality, I can show up and leave whenever and have done for years, but I work long hours so not really something I can be called up on.
By guff I'm referring to you quoting people with comments like "grasping much?" etc.. There isn't much to understand when if comes to your throw away comments, they're not particularly informative - I already understood that you appeared to think they were free, you questioned that assumption then confirmed it was the case.
You have however completely ignored the responses to that position and the question of why?
Essentially are you able to think critically for your self, read the replies to your position and answer some basic questions about it? So far you seem to have just given "NPC" (to use an internet meme) type responses whereby apparently your position is unquestionable and you'll do nothing but posture a bit and vent if anyone questions it.
Caporegime
Perhaps they would be biased?
Caporegime
Very simple way to deny it. Client demand.
Soldato
I apologise, i'm not entirely sure what you're failing to understand.
If you wish to ask a specific question please do, I shall attempt to respond in an easily comprehensible manner.
Perhaps they would be able to explain the experience.
If you are contracted to be there to cover fixed hours yea, but a lot of people aren't. I work flexi-hours in a IT job.
Caporegime
Of growing a beard? I doubt it.
It isn't a question of me failing to understand it is you not engaging in discussion or answering direct questions. I asked why in post #43 then asked again in this post #54 for example - you just chose to confirm that you're not ignorant of other options but ignored the other questions:
I'm just curious about why this specific product should be free and whether other products should be? In particular if yes to any of them then given there are alternative reusable products or products with a minimal disposable element in these cases then why should the disposable be free?
You seem to have answered w.r.t razor blades later in a reply to another poster though neither razor blades or tampons are essential (and humans have done without them for most of our existence) they are useful things to have or at least the use of some similar product.
Caporegime
Like I've already explained, try and live in modern society looking like a yeti.