Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 5 3600x

[Kdotp9]

Hi,

I was wondering if it's worth the extra £30 to buy the 3600x over the 3600?

Aren't they essentially the same cpu just the 3600x has a slightly higher base clock? I guess my question is it worth spending the extra £30 for the 'x' on the end of the name.

Will the 3600x make a bigger difference to gaming?

 

[lee32uk]

Hi

Not really. The 3600X has a slightly better stock cooler as well, but £30 would buy a decent aftermarket one anyway. The difference in performance will be negligible in gaming between those two cpu's.

 

[Kdotp9]

Fair enough.

So I'd be better off saving the £30 and putting that towards a better graphics card then?

I decided to get the Geforce GTX 1660 (non ti) version.

 

[tamzzy]

I decided to get the Geforce GTX 1660 (non ti) version.

depending on how much the specific card costs, vega 56 may be the better buy

 

[lee32uk]

I am not sure that you could get a better gpu with £30 as the price jump between a 1660 and 1660 ti is probably more like £60+ depending on the model.

 

[Kdotp9]

Thanks all for the input.

I looked at the Vega 56 and the 64 and lots of other cards too. As I've been out of the PC gaming world for the best part of 13 years now, I think i went in with what i know and feel comfortable with.

I'm sure in a few years I'll be looking at upgrading the cpu and gpu both but hopefully not for a while.

 

[tamzzy]

I looked at the Vega 56 and the 64 and lots of other cards too. As I've been out of the PC gaming world for the best part of 13 years now, I think i went in with what i know and feel comfortable with.

what is your budget and what have you picked?

 

[Kdotp9]

what is your budget and what have you picked?

My budget is around £1000-1200.

I've picked:
- Ryzen 5 3600x
- Gigabyte gaming x570 x motherboard
- Vulcan T-force 16GB
- Nzxt Kraken M22 aio cooler
- Zotac Geforce GTX 1660
- 500gb SSD
- 2TB Segate Baracuda

 

[Burnt_Custard]

Drop to a Ryzen 5 3600 as it paying extra for better stock cooler when you are buying aftermarket anyways is pointless. I only recommend aftermarket coolers over the stock cooler is if you want a more silent PC or you want to encode or render and you need a stable all-core overclock. Overclocking ryzen for just gaming is not worth it.

Get a Ryzen 3000 ready B450 motherboard, or a mobo with bio flashback. Only get a X570 if you are ready keen on PCI-E 4.0 ssd storage speeds.

Use that £100-200 savings on a better GPU

 

[lee32uk]

My budget is around £1000-1200.

I've picked:
- Ryzen 5 3600x
- Gigabyte gaming x570 x motherboard
- Vulcan T-force 16GB
- Nzxt Kraken M22 aio cooler
- Zotac Geforce GTX 1660
- 500gb SSD
- 2TB Segate Baracuda

Assuming you only need the tower ? you can do much better for that budget:

R5 3600
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX motherboard
Powercolor RX 5700 XT Dual Fan gpu
SuperFlower Leadex II 550W psu
16GB Team Group Vulcan T-Force DDR4 3000MHz
Seagate Barracuda 1TB SSD
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD
Fractal Design Focus G ATX case
Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo cpu cooler


That lot comes to around £1121 on here but if you shop around you will probably find things cheaper.

For the Ram I would look at Crucial Ballistix Sport LT which unfortunately isn't sold on here. You can look on Crucial website for this. Just make sure it has 'AES' in the Crucial part number i.e BLS2K8G4D30AESBK

And for the SSD I would suggest a Sabrent Rocket NVMe. Again not sold on here so you will have to google it. The 1TB version should be around £110.

 

[tamzzy]

@Kdotp9 - @lee32uk 's build would be what id recommend for your budget. Much better build

 

[Kdotp9]

Assuming you only need the tower ? you can do much better for that budget:

R5 3600
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX motherboard
Powercolor RX 5700 XT Dual Fan gpu
SuperFlower Leadex II 550W psu
16GB Team Group Vulcan T-Force DDR4 3000MHz
Seagate Barracuda 1TB SSD
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD
Fractal Design Focus G ATX case
Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo cpu cooler


That lot comes to around £1121 on here but if you shop around you will probably find things cheaper.

For the Ram I would look at Crucial Ballistix Sport LT which unfortunately isn't sold on here. You can look on Crucial website for this. Just make sure it has 'AES' in the Crucial part number i.e BLS2K8G4D30AESBK

And for the SSD I would suggest a Sabrent Rocket NVMe. Again not sold on here so you will have to google it. The 1TB version should be around £110.

Thanks @lee32uk and @tamzzy and everyone else for your input.

I'll shop around and post final build on here once I've decided!

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Hi,

I was wondering if it's worth the extra £30 to buy the 3600x over the 3600?

Aren't they essentially the same cpu just the 3600x has a slightly higher base clock? I guess my question is it worth spending the extra £30 for the 'x' on the end of the name.

Will the 3600x make a bigger difference to gaming?

i have both. i would say the 3600X is worth it because that extra 200mhz does make a difference to gaming especially frame drops and minimum fps. i mean that extra £30 on the cpu will net you more fps than an extra £30 on a gpu ever will.

 

[lee32uk]

i have both. i would say the 3600X is worth it because that extra 200mhz does make a difference to gaming especially frame drops and minimum fps. i mean that extra £30 on the cpu will net you more fps than an extra £30 on a gpu ever will.

Reviews suggest there is little difference. The £30 will pay for a much better cooler.

https://www.techspot.com/article/1880-ryzen-3600x-vs-3600/

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Reviews suggest there is little difference. The £30 will pay for a much better cooler.

https://www.techspot.com/article/1880-ryzen-3600x-vs-3600/

there is still a difference though. over time it's nothing to pay for that extra bit of performance. i've tested myself and i've managed to get 520 in cpuz vs 478 of the 3600 so it's 42 more points which is around 7-8% faster. which translates to 2-3% faster in games.

 

[lee32uk]

there is still a difference though. over time it's nothing to pay for that extra bit of performance. i've tested myself and i've managed to get 520 in cpuz vs 478 of the 3600 so it's 42 more points which is around 7-8% faster. which translates to 2-3% faster in games.

At stock speeds it has a slight advantage but when the 3600 is clocked to 4.3-4.4GHz then that disappears. The current price difference between the 3600 and 3600X using that well known comparison site is around £38. That buys you a much better cooler than the Wraith Spire.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

At stock speeds it has a slight advantage but when the 3600 is clocked to 4.3-4.4GHz then that disappears. The current price difference between the 3600 and 3600X using that well known comparison site is around £38. That buys you a much better cooler than the Wraith Spire.

Issue being 3600 doesn't clock well at all otherwise I could say why not clock the 3600x to 4.6 ghz?

My 3600x when using all 6 cores boosts to 4.15 ghz which is only 50mhz off 3600 single core boost speeds

 

[lee32uk]

Issue being 3600 doesn't clock well at all otherwise I could say why not clock the 3600x to 4.6 ghz?

My 3600x when using all 6 cores boosts to 4.15 ghz which is only 50mhz off 3600 single core boost speeds

None of the 3000 series overclock that well. If you watch the Gamers Nexus vid you can see that when the 3600 is at 4.3GHz it is just under 2 fps difference in Assassin's Creed. You are not going to notice that. I would rather have a better cpu cooler so that the cpu runs cooler/quieter. Also if you wanted to overclock you will get better results than you would with AMD's stock offering.

 

[Kdotp9]

Thanks everyone for your input.

I've made a few tweaks to the final build.

Going for:
R5 3600x
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX motherboard (from what I've read, no need to flash the bios on these)
GeForce GTX 1660ti
SuperFlower Leadex II 550W psu
16GB Team Group Vulcan T-Force DDR4 3000MHz
Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo cpu cooler

For the case I'm using a Lian Li Lancool One digital it's a 2nd hand case a friend wasn't using.

I'll probably look to upgrade the gpu and ram in a few years time.

Mostly going to use for gaming at 1080p on a 60hz monitor and some light audio editing.

Thanks.

 

[tamzzy]

for about the same price, 3600+5700xt will run rings around a 3600x+1660ti build
reason that the 5700xt is 1.5x the performance of a 1660ti

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £199.99
• 1 x MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £106.99
• 1 x Kingston HyperX Predator 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3333MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX433C16PB3K2/16)= £79.99
• 1 x Powercolor Radeon RX 5700 XT Dual Fan 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £379.99
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterWatt 650 - 650W 80 Plus Bronze Semi Modular Power Supply= £64.99

Total: £843.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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