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Which leads me to think about something else...how would you deal with the heat generated by moving through dense air at 32000 mph? It would be immense.
what about the sonic shockwaves? I know you get a bang when you break the sound barrier, no idea what happens when you start hitting speeds like that though.
 
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what about the sonic shockwaves? I know you get a bang when you break the sound barrier, no idea what happens when you start hitting speeds like that though.

I don’t think there’s a material known to man, which could withstand moving through an atmosphere at 32000mph (8.8 miles per second) without exploding or burning up, due to the heat, in milliseconds.

Perhaps it’s possible, that *if* you could ever make such a material, the speed of the object involved, might actually super-heat the oxygen around it like lightening does, so perhaps it would sound like thunder, as well as a sonic boom.
 
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Colour me utterly unconvinced until the little green men knock on my door, and we discuss the weather, politics and cow mutilation over a nice cup of tea.

I've never understand the cow/animal mutilation mystery yet though? Apparently the animals are cut open very precise. If it was another animal it would be pulled skin and meat etc. I'm thinking its Jack The Ripper ;)

Reminds me of crop circles and how they "had" to be made by aliens, with excuses ranging from "why would people create them, it makes no sense" to "these patterns are too geometrically precise to be made by humans". Aliens, yeah right...

I regularly listen to a guy who makes them. He says there is no aliens involved. But there is a strange energy inside them. I've not looked indepth on the subject with him. But he's a well known crop circle maker. Look up Matthew Williams.
 
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If these objects are from elsewhere it is highly unlikely there are humanoid creatures flying around in them. An advanced technology would most likely be controlled by an AI.

Landing on the White house lawn and declaring themselves isn't going to happen, these are going to be explorer probes probably mapping planets for a higher intelligence.

Or they are part of a black project as stated, with technology too dangerous to publicly declare / commercialise.
 

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I'm thinking its Jack The Ripper

He was never caught after all!

The sonic boom thing, surely you'd only hear a boom if the craft broke the sound barrier. If there's no acceleration to and then beyond the barrier then there's no sonic boom which would indicate either some kind of anti-gravity field or one of the theories on how long distance space travel might be possible by folding space in front of the vehicle to reach the destination instantly. I can't remember which series this was talked about, might have been an episode of Cosmos a few years back.
 
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I can't recall where I read this but the air intercept controller on the carrier indicated there had been a major upgrade to their radar systems allowing them to track the objects following the carrier strike force. He has twenty years experience on the job and in his opinion the objects were behaving in a non terrestrial way using non classical physical means of propulsion. Furthermore he is of the opinion that the objects could have always following them and that is why more incidents of this kind are being reported. Kevin Day was quick to point out he observed both the radar signatures of these objects followed by a confirmed visual sighting:

Kevin Day is a Topgun air intercept controller with more than 20 years experience in strike group air defence including war-time operations.
 
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He was never caught after all!

The sonic boom thing, surely you'd only hear a boom if the craft broke the sound barrier. If there's no acceleration to and then beyond the barrier then there's no sonic boom which would indicate either some kind of anti-gravity field or one of the theories on how long distance space travel might be possible by folding space in front of the vehicle to reach the destination instantly. I can't remember which series this was talked about, might have been an episode of Cosmos a few years back.
I saw something similar, related to Adamski's pics. the theory was a "gravity engine" that in effect pulled your destination point to the ship and then when you turned it off it returned, and your craft moved w/ it. The whole theory was way above my understanding at the time [probably nowt's changed, lol]. The theory as regards Adamski was that a few of his pics showed unusual warping in the craft structure, which was attributed to gravity manipulation. Was many moons ago now so I can't recall if that was a theory specific to his craft, or if it was a theory that existed and someone posited the explanation to his pics.
Wormholes are an interesting topic for travel too.
 

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This seems to be the go to for lots of scifi of late, going faster than light is easy, you simply fold a piece of paper and put a pencil through it, ta darrr!

On paper it's possible. The only problem is as someone mentioned in the thread a while back, to do so requires the kind of energy only a black hole can produce.

Or maybe one of Nibbler's poop pellets :D

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I think the simplest way to put the whole thing into a grouping is using the accepted Kardashev Scale

We aren't even a Type 1 civilisation yet... The type of civilisation people are talking about in the thread would be at least a Type 3.
 
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On paper it's possible. The only problem is as someone mentioned in the thread a while back, to do so requires the kind of energy only a black hole can produce.

Or maybe one of Nibbler's poop pellets :D

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Tee hee! Indeed :)

We might be limited to how we understand energy and how to produce the massive amounts needed for pencil through paper travel as we understand it currently. This is the great thing about science fiction I guess, it can lead to thinking about and exploring new lines of thought.
 

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Modern science fiction is actually helping real world science too. Interstellar creators used the power of Hollywood computers to simulate a black whole, how it would look and behave and NASA scientists used that simulation for research. I think this kind of thing is great. It's not the first movie to allow real scientists to have an input either. in order to advance things in the real world.
 

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Which is why ladies and gentleman the only efficient way of intergalactic travel is the human conscious uploaded into something artificial where you can switch it off and switch it back on again as if noting has happend. Biological beings are quite possibly the worst thing for intergalactic space travel.

Cybernetics and human augmentation cant come soon enough.
 

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Re the Kardashev scale: the implied social 'singularity' function capability of type 5 are clearly misplaced. For one, they are already known. Two, they are immensely profitable. Third, they will soon be deployed for reason #2. Last, they provide the capability of reaching the first level on the scale.

I will qualify those claims - it's only my opinion regardless of the facts at my disposal.
 
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I don’t think there’s a material known to man, which could withstand moving through an atmosphere at 32000mph (8.8 miles per second) without exploding or burning up, due to the heat, in milliseconds.

Perhaps it’s possible, that *if* you could ever make such a material, the speed of the object involved, might actually super-heat the oxygen around it like lightening does, so perhaps it would sound like thunder, as well as a sonic boom.
I'm 100% certain that in a Guinness Book of World Records a good few years back (2004 - 2008 possibly) the US Navy held the record for the fastest projectile - it was either 225,000 mph or 425,000 mph but didn't elaborate on what was being fired or from what. Be interested to know if anyone remembers this.
 
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