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[StarShock]

I would love to see a 7nm 64cu graphics card with clocks around 2ghz and a £400 price tag. Don't think we'll get that though

 

[Panos]

Not anymore Nvidia has sorted that out now

Actually not. If you compare the pricing of the Nvidia & AMD products right now, AMD has the lead in perf/cost by miles.
That also includes ray tracing servers for the film industry, which AMD has dominated the last 5 years.

If you listen to business analysts, they state right now that AMD has 6-12 month lead over Nvidia in the server market already (Datacenters, AI etc), which will widen up at soon as V20 hits the market later this year.
And NV doesn't have 21TFlop product, AMD has. And supporting PCI-E 4.0 in addition to GPU Infinity Fabric for unlimited connectivity.

 

[4K8KW10]

I would love to see a 7nm 64cu graphics card with clocks around 2ghz and a £400 price tag. Don't think we'll get that though

If it is pure gaming card, with half the die size of TU104 and its performance, nvidia will be in trouble.

 

[Panos]

I would love to see a 7nm 64cu graphics card with clocks around 2ghz and a £400 price tag. Don't think we'll get that though

Given current stupid Nvidia pricing, I wouldn't surprised if AMD put thew Vega 20 in mainstream for £800.
Though the issue is, since it is crushing the RTX2080Ti (and even the top of the range quadro) in compute performance, so might be grabbed from everyone and his dog. (Miners, filming industry etc).

 

[4K8KW10]

Given current stupid Nvidia pricing, I wouldn't surprised if AMD put thew Vega 20 in mainstream for £800.
Though the issue is, since it is crushing the RTX2080Ti (and even the top of the range quadro) in compute performance, so might be grabbed from everyone and his dog. (Miners, filming industry etc).

It isn't the pricing stupid but the cause for it - super large silicon which makes high pricing inevitable

 

[Gregster]

When will the next-gen AMD Navi graphics cards launch? We’re betting on an early 2019 release date for the new Radeon GPUs https://www-pcgamesn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.pcgamesn.com/amd-navi-gpu-release-date-performance?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE=#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd-navi-gpu-release-date-performance

Awesome and will be good to have some sensible prices and performance to boot! 7nm is gonna kick some butt!

 

[Rroff]

Actually not. If you compare the pricing of the Nvidia & AMD products right now, AMD has the lead in perf/cost by miles.

Miles? the Vega 64 slightly edges the 1080 at the moment on price/performance and that is it - the other AMD cards are either the same price or more expensive than the equivalent AMD?

 

[melmac]

nvidia will be in trouble.

No they won't, it would take several generations of AMD producing better cards for Nvidia to be in trouble. Why do you think Nvidia are coming out with First generation Ray Tracing and DLSS now?

 

[Dan82]

Miles? the Vega 64 slightly edges the 1080 at the moment on price/performance and that is it - the other AMD cards are either the same price or more expensive than the equivalent AMD?

Don't waste your energy Rroff, another DM without all the technical input, an AMD shareholder!

 

[LoadsaMoney]

When will the next-gen AMD Navi graphics cards launch? We’re betting on an early 2019 release date for the new Radeon GPUs https://www-pcgamesn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.pcgamesn.com/amd-navi-gpu-release-date-performance?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE=#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd-navi-gpu-release-date-performance

 

[Panos]

Miles? the Vega 64 slightly edges the 1080 at the moment on price/performance and that is it - the other AMD cards are either the same price or more expensive than the equivalent AMD?

We are talking about server and HPC market

 

[4K8KW10]

Miles? the Vega 64 slightly edges the 1080 at the moment on price/performance and that is it - the other AMD cards are either the same price or more expensive than the equivalent AMD?

Vega 64 vs GTX 1080 and RX 580 8GB vs GTX 1060 6GB, too.

No they won't, it would take several generations of AMD producing better cards for Nvidia to be in trouble. Why do you think Nvidia are coming out with First generation Ray Tracing and DLSS now?

Have they said why?
The development began four-five years ago...

 

[Rroff]

RX 580 8GB vs GTX 1060 6GB, too

Same price and performance wise largely nothing in it on latest rounds of benchmarks a few the 580 wins a few the 1060 wins - I'd say the 580 still edges it as the better card but not by miles.

 

[4K8KW10]

What is the reason for the laugh?

 

[4K8KW10]

AMD Arcturus Might Be The Codename Succeeding Navi https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Radeon-Arcturus

While it will be a ways from release, the codename to the successor of the AMD Radeon "Navi" GPUs might be Arcturus.

Navi is the codename of the next-gen AMD GPUs due out in 2019 and is the nickname of the star Gamma Cassiopeiae. Current generation Vega also ties into the astronomical theme as it's the brightest star in the Lyra constellation.. It was "Polaris" that kicked off this theme with the Radeon RX 480 series launch. Now it looks like the AMD Navi successor might be Arcturus. Arcturus is a large red star and the brightest of the constellation of Boötes.

We found out about the Arcturus name today in our forums from our resident AMD Linux liaison when a reader was asking about all of the numbers involved in modern AMD GPU codenames like Vega 10, 11, and 20 and a preference for going back to GPU codenames like the days of Northern and Southern Islands.

Arcturus is expected to be the first codename under their revised scheme and still would tie into the solar system play. But any details beyond that name are non-existent at this point.

Update: It appears that the open-source Linux driver may begin seeing new codenames to help in assisting their open-source driver enablement earlier in the cycle without exposing the product/marketing name. It looks like Arcturus is their first chip with this scheme rather than the current family-sequence syntax.

 

[4K8KW10]

Will Navi support Shader Model 6.4 or higher?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Level_Shading_Language

 

[4K8KW10]

AMD Arcturus Next-Gen GPU Support Added To HWiNFO, Could Be Featured In Radeon Instinct AI/HPC Lineup As Early As 2020
https://wccftech.com/amd-arcturus-gpu-radeon-instinct-ai-accelerator-support-added-hwinfo/

 

[Mauller]

Arcturus is likely the compute only, higher CU count GCN part that will be Pro only and not be for graphics.