The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread

Orange Nexus · 13 Oct 2019 at 19:55

TNA said:
Even on latest BIOS my ryzen 3600 does not like my Corsair 3200MHz CL16 RAM running on XMP. Not had a crash, but fine bench got N error a few times, so pretty sure it is ram. Only thing I can think of is right now it is on auto but I may need to pick manually one of three profiles there.

Does anyone else use XMP or is this cpu very fussy and needs manual calibration of ram?

Raise the DRAM voltage a bit. Try 1.36v or 1.37v. I use XMP on my GSkill RIPJAWS 3200 CL16 M-Die adjusting the speed to 3333mhz and voltage to 1.36V.

TNA · 13 Oct 2019 at 20:08

Orange Nexus said:
Raise the DRAM voltage a bit. Try 1.36v or 1.37v. I use XMP on my GSkill RIPJAWS 3200 CL16 M-Die adjusting the speed to 3333mhz and voltage to 1.36V.

Thanks. Will give that a go

TNA · 14 Oct 2019 at 09:42

humbug said:
Corseair Vengeance LPX 3000, works fine on XMP and overclocked, no problems.

Can you send me your full settings for your ram humbug please humbug, might give them a go and see if it works.

TNA · 14 Oct 2019 at 18:08

Orange Nexus said:
Raise the DRAM voltage a bit. Try 1.36v or 1.37v. I use XMP on my GSkill RIPJAWS 3200 CL16 M-Die adjusting the speed to 3333mhz and voltage to 1.36V.

Tried raising to 1.36v and that helped it now pass Cinebench without an error. Decided to try memtest after, but that starter spitting out errors so it seems like it needs more voltage and I am not comfortable going any higher. Maybe it is just dodgy memory that cannot keep up with it's xmp rating.

Trying it out with xmp on but at 3000MHz to see if that works now. Might just opt for returning the memory if no luck.

TNA · 14 Oct 2019 at 19:47

Can confirm running xmp profile but manually changing it to 3000MHz has solved the issue. Even memtest is happy now. So basically put 3200MHz does not work at 1.35v and it needs more juice which is what the problem was.

My question now is do I just keep these and use them as 3000MHz or ask for a replacement?

DragonQ · 15 Oct 2019 at 07:58

What kind of memory chips do you have? If it's Micron E or Samsung B you should get much higher than that. If not, it is possible that's just the limit of the memory. Can you post a screenshot from Thaiphoon?

Also note that there are such things as "memory holes", basically memory speeds that just won't work with a given setup even if all the components are capable of faster speeds. My RAM is not stable between 3200 MT/s and 3600 MT/s, but can run at 3600 MT/s or 3666 MT/s with no issues.

TNA · 15 Oct 2019 at 08:14

DragonQ said:
What kind of memory chips do you have? If it's Micron E or Samsung B you should get much higher than that. If not, it is possible that's just the limit of the memory. Can you post a screenshot from Thaiphoon?

Also note that there are such things as "memory holes", basically memory speeds that just won't work with a given setup even if all the components are capable of faster speeds. My RAM is not stable between 3200 MT/s and 3600 MT/s, but can run at 3600 MT/s or 3666 MT/s with no issues.

Here is my post in another thread:

TNA said:
Managed to get an older version of that software which launched. Here are the screenshots and it shows as Samsung B-die which is meant to be one of the best?

For some reason though it does not want to run at XMP speeds and wants more voltage.

Damn, I just noticed you went and got yourself suspended. Lol

DragonQ · 15 Oct 2019 at 08:17

I'd whack it up to 1.4 V (perfectly safe 24/7) and try 3200 CL16. If that doesn't work, try the same at 3600 CL 16. You never know! Also, what AGESA version is included in your BIOS? My board's first BIOS with AGESA 0.0.7.2 wouldn't even run my RAM at XMP.

TNA · 15 Oct 2019 at 08:31

DragonQ said:
I'd whack it up to 1.4 V (perfectly safe 24/7) and try 3200 CL16. If that doesn't work, try the same at 3600 CL 16. You never know! Also, what AGESA version is included in your BIOS? My board's first BIOS with AGESA 0.0.7.2 wouldn't even run my RAM at XMP.

I am on the latest ABBA BIOS. Will give that a go, thanks.

harmattan · 15 Oct 2019 at 09:28

All things being equal, 3600 or 2700x...? I'm mostly playing games at high resolution (3440x1440) and IQ e.g. AC: Odyssey, Division 2, Metro, Tomb Raider, Solaris. I do some basic photo editing and multi-tasking. Not sure if the extra single-thread performance of the 3600 would matter in games vs. the extra cores.

I'm running an Asus Prime x370 (most recent BIOS) with Corsair 16GB 2800.

TNA · 15 Oct 2019 at 16:27

What CinebenchR20 scores you guys getting with your 3600? Last I did a 4400MHz on all cores at 1.4v and got a score of 3939 and 510 for single core. Not even sure if this is very good or a normal chip I got here.

Orange Nexus · 15 Oct 2019 at 16:59

harmattan said:
All things being equal, 3600 or 2700x...? I'm mostly playing games at high resolution (3440x1440) and IQ e.g. AC: Odyssey, Division 2, Metro, Tomb Raider, Solaris. I do some basic photo editing and multi-tasking. Not sure if the extra single-thread performance of the 3600 would matter in games vs. the extra cores.

I'm running an Asus Prime x370 (most recent BIOS) with Corsair 16GB 2800.

Mostly gaming, then the 3600 should work better for your use case.

Destination · 15 Oct 2019 at 17:35

TNA said:
What CinebenchR20 scores you guys getting with your 3600? Last I did a 4400MHz on all cores at 1.4v and got a score of 3939 and 510 for single core. Not even sure if this is very good or a normal chip I got here.

3536 and 476 here on a 4.2 none OCed stock everything type setup on a tomahawk max, so looks good what you are getting.

TNA · 15 Oct 2019 at 18:07

Destination said:
3536 and 476 here on a 4.2 none OCed stock everything type setup on a tomahawk max, so looks good what you are getting.

Everything on default I get something similar to you, just a few points more as I recall, but within margin or error.

Not tried going any higher yet, but it does seems like 4400MHz for all cores is close to the limit. It's good to know that if I ever need the extra speed it is there

On default my run on Cinebench does not go above 65C, but on 4400MHz on all cores I think it was around 76C

Edit: Did a run at 4200MHz on all cores at 1.25v and max temp was 62C and netted a score of 3752.

Joxeon · 15 Oct 2019 at 19:26

TNA said:
Everything on default I get something similar to you, just a few points more as I recall, but within margin or error.

Not tried going any higher yet, but it does seems like 4400MHz for all cores is close to the limit. It's good to know that if I ever need the extra speed it is there

On default my run on Cinebench does not go above 65C, but on 4400MHz on all cores I think it was around 76C

Edit: Did a run at 4200MHz on all cores at 1.25v and max temp was 62C and netted a score of 3752.

Sounds like you have a x chip in disguise

TNA · 15 Oct 2019 at 20:33

Joxeon said:
Sounds like you have a x chip in disguise

Could be

TNA · 17 Oct 2019 at 08:14

So been tweaking and lowering voltages for each of my profiles and testing them to see if they pass cinebench and blender benchmark since my last post. Currently got 4 profiles on Ryzen Master. All the cores clocked at the same speed on each profile. I did a quick run on Cinebench of each profile, noted the points and highest temp.

Default = 3470pts - 64C.
4GHz @ 1.1v = 3528pts - 50C.
4.2GHz @ 1.15v = 3728pts - 54C.
4.3GHz @ 1.2v = 3818pts - 59C.
4.4GHz @ 1.25v = 3902pts - 63C.
4.4GHz @ 1.4v = 3903pts - 75C.

What clocks are you guys getting? Anyone else able to run cinebench/blender benchmark without crashing at 4,4GHz on all cores or at any of my all core overclocks from above? If so what scores are you getting so I can compare

TNA · 18 Oct 2019 at 21:59

This chip keeps on giving. Got 4.5GHz all core working on Cinebench now guys. It needs 1.325v on my chip

gpuerrilla · 18 Oct 2019 at 22:43

Great value that chip!

TNA · 18 Oct 2019 at 22:50

Th0nt said:
Great value that chip!

Indeed. Cannot complain for £175