El Chapo: Heavy fighting erupts in Culiacán

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True - it is rather chilling. As a poster said earlier - Mexico needs US help here like Columbia had. They're too corrupt at the moment, security forces too compromised to deal with it properly.

Tbh.. with all this stuff in the neighbouring country then it is not too surprising that some Americans want a border wall and/or better monitoring of their southern border.

It's not just happening in Mexico, a friend of mine who moved to Arizona a few years back is already talking of moving back to his native Montana due the ever creeping and ever increasing levels of cartel violence on the US side of the border.
 
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You'd think all this would take some of the glamour away from sneaking into a trendy club's bathroom for a quick bump.
 
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Quite a few fake or old videos doing the rounds on this - two of the videos with "special forces" pulling stunts are from a movie set and some of the more gruesome ones are from Brazil around 2-3 years ago.

Couple of longer videos taken on the streets that are real showing exchanges of fire going on for quite some time with higher calibre small arms - scene in one of a police officer removing a child from harms way shielding her with his body as he moves across open ground to move the child from the side of the road where the police were drawing fire as you can literally hear the snap of bullets going overhead.
 
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Well some cartel has screwed up massively they killed a load of mormons in Mexico including kids etc

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nt-call-Donald-Trump-offer-send-U-S-army.html

Trump said he wants to send in US troops to destroy cartels but the Mexican government has refused the help!

From the article:

"López Obrador on Tuesday rejected Trump's approach, saying his predecessors waged war against the cartels 'and it didn't work.'"

There is a big difference between domestically waging war on cartels and a foreign power being able to touch them as it is much harder for the cartels to infiltrate a foreign power's military structure, etc. and carry out attacks against army resources on foreign soil, etc.

That said given the job the US has done in places like Iraq, etc. I can't blame them turning Trump down :s
 
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"'I don't think we need the intervention of a foreign government to deal with these cases,' Lopez Obrador said "

Given the absolute **** show they had when they tried to arrest a senior Cartel figure they could really do with some help.

US Special forces mentoring a carefully vetted local force, perhaps from their new "national guard" paramilitary unit + DEA + various intelligence assets ought to be able to help immensely with even just actually being able to arrest some of the leaders etc..
 
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US Special forces mentoring a carefully vetted local force, perhaps from their new "national guard" paramilitary unit + DEA + various intelligence assets ought to be able to help immensely with even just actually being able to arrest some of the leaders etc..

They did that already. The GAFE received training from American and Israeli special forces. Members then broke away to work as protection and enforcement for the Gulf Cartel, before forming their own organisation "Los Zetas".
 
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They did that already. The GAFE received training from American and Israeli special forces. Members then broke away to work as protection and enforcement for the Gulf Cartel, before forming their own organisation "Los Zetas".

That was some time ago - also bit of a difference between just having some training and being actively mentored and given intelligence support etc..

That can be highly effective as we saw recently with the Kurds in Syria/Iraq vs ISIS before Mango was dumb and pulled out US troops.
 
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