39 Bodies found in Lorry in Essex

[sideways14a]

Nope, because the containers have to be able to be opened by customs.

So customs are totally incapable of knocking on the drivers door and asking for the keys/code?
I have a lot of mates that are drivers (rural area round here, lots of logging and haulage) and when i query why something is like ... like it is with there job its like "ohh the boss wont spend the money" or its the way they always do it.

Sounds like a complete lack of brains being available in the haulage industry to be honest.

 

[jsmoke]

Nope, because the containers have to be able to be opened by customs.

There's a move over to smart locks but obviously still most HGV on mechanical locks.

 

[Lord-Jaffa]

They could if countries let them... but airlines would get fined AFAIK. I mean that is what seemed so farcical about Merkel and her "refugees welcome" nonsense - it isn't like she allowed them to just pay for a plane fare - instead they had to run a gauntlet through a bunch of other countries to get there and pay far more than the cost of a plane ticket to people smuggling gangs. Also meant that the people who were able to be "welcomed" in Germany and the rest of Europe were disproportionately the people who were least at risk in the first place - mostly fit, military aged young men. Of course a relative lack of women caused some obvious problems there too.

There was that really sad story too of the little toddler being washed up on the beach - though, counterintuitively, it was seemingly used by people in support of the policy that lead to his death in the first place... the family the little guy was from were already safely in Turkey, living in a house there but decided to chance it along with all the others following Merkel's call.

But no, they won't let them buy plane tickets (or indeed provide them for people who can't) - they've got to risk it all in unsafe boats/dinghies themselves.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/angel...erly-failed-at-building-multicultural-society

Seems to be working out great for Germany, who could have predicted that there would be so many racists in Germany society though.

"Debate in the country has been further fueled by former central banker Thilo Sarrazin, who argues in a book that Muslim immigrants have lowered the intelligence of German society"

 

[OspreyO]

Not really he obviously knew what he was doing, hope he gets 30+ years.

How and why would you jump to that conclusion?

 

[jsmoke]

How and why would you jump to that conclusion?

I take that back, just a rash speculative thing to say.

 

[Puzzled]

Do drivers not lock these things up with proper half decent heavy duty kit?

They cant win, if they make the trailers too secure then thieves just go for the driver. You always see empty trailers left open when they park up overnight because of the amount of theft.

Cameras or heat sensors in the back might help though.

 

[danlightbulb]

Just watched newsnight's story on this and apparantly the location where the lorry stopped is notorious for illegal immigrant drop offs. The lorry clearly went to this location deliberately, there was nothing else there in the middle of the night. Its not clear who opened the door and found the bodies but the ambulance service called the police.

Initially i thought that the lorry driver was innocent in this but now im going the other way. There seems to be no reason for him to take the lorry to that location in the middle of the night.

 

[StriderX]

I wonder if this is bog standard trafficking or enslavement going on here (my only suspicion was the fact that there are no children, but maybe that's explainable), in any event the cost of making sure literally every container or truck is not carrying things they shouldn't would probably bankrupt the country and probably still wouldn't work as the common failure is people.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Nope, because the containers have to be able to be opened by customs.

So they can't ask drivers for keys or combinations, they just need to get straight in?

 

[shauncr91]

Disgusting the way this has been handled by the Police and media.

Driver has picked up the the trailer off the boat and opened the it not too long later. The Police saying that the driver was arrested under suspicion of murder and subsequently The Sun putting pictures of him along with full name and asking for people who know him to get in touch is utterly shameful.

Pulling trailers for other companies is referred to as traction work and very often, if a trailer is security sealed (we don't know if this was or not) then a driver can't just break that off to rummage around in the back without permission.

 

[stockhausen]

No message.

 

[randomshenans]

I should have worked harder in school I know. I learned next to nothing in english after the age of around 12.

wuv you

 

[randomshenans]

Why pick on just the Sun
All of the gutter press is much the same.

Agreed.

 

[shauncr91]

Why pick on just the Sun
All of the gutter press is much the same.

I've been following this closely since it's the same industry I work in and The Sun was where we first saw his details plastered online and asking for acquaintances to get in touch.

 

[Hotwired]

They are enthusiastically ghoulish in getting the most personal details...

...because people who read the sun want to see lives ripped apart for their entertainment.

 

[Usher]

Feel for the driver will haunt him forever

Seeing as the lorry was parked at a destination where locals have previously seen people jumping out the back of lorries it's rather suspicious is it not?

 

[Hotwired]

I'd rather wait for a police report before egging on unproven theories like that.

 

[200sols]

Seeing as the lorry was parked at a destination where locals have previously seen people jumping out the back of lorries it's rather suspicious is it not?

Lorry on an industrial estate? Yes its very suspicious.

 

[Bounce]

Lorry on an industrial estate? Yes its very suspicious.

 

[The_One]

Seeing as the lorry was parked at a destination where locals have previously seen people jumping out the back of lorries it's rather suspicious is it not?

So is every lorry entering dover suspicious as its known for trafficking also

What a silly sweeping statement