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Intel about to expand into Graphics, AMD on the rise, are the tables turning on nVidia?

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Probably a good thing then that AMD are supplying the hardware powering next gen consoles. Although I have no idea how much financially that will pull in for AMD.
AMD will have made their money from being commissioned to make a semi-custom design in the first place. But they also won't be making a loss selling the actual product either. Same with the new Ryzen Surface; it's the partnership and commission from Microsoft that carries the bulk of the money, not the selling of the resulting APU.
 
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AMD will have made their money from being commissioned to make a semi-custom design in the first place. But they also won't be making a loss selling the actual product either. Same with the new Ryzen Surface; it's the partnership and commission from Microsoft that carries the bulk of the money, not the selling of the resulting APU.

This, its an AMD design but they don't sell chips, they get IP fees and MS manufacture the chips, $100 to $120 per console sold.
 
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To go back to the question in the title, as a household with 4 recent (Pascal and Turing) Nvidia cards... I really hope so.

They are great products, but competition is always good. The DGPU space has effectively been owned by Green and Red since forever, with Green really dominating in recent years. Red are fighting back, and that's awesome. With a third serious player this is only going to heat up, and maybe, just maybe, we'll see some serious price action.
 
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To go back to the question in the title, as a household with 4 recent (Pascal and Turing) Nvidia cards... I really hope so.

They are great products, but competition is always good. The DGPU space has effectively been owned by Green and Red since forever, with Green really dominating in recent years. Red are fighting back, and that's awesome. With a third serious player this is only going to heat up, and maybe, just maybe, we'll see some serious price action.

Here here...
 
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Intel will be targeting Nvidia, especially in the low end desktop GPUs and in laptops. They did state in a presentation a while back that they see Nvidia as their main rival for the next few years, makes sense since their CPU division is a shambles right now with the lack of 10nm. They'll no doubt be funneling their new GPUs down the throats of OEMs and giving them incentive to go full Intel + Intel, or at least AMD CPU + Intel GPU for PCs and laptops with dGPUs.

People who think AMD have the most to lose are not looking at the big picture here. Intel are the ones looking to take the battle to Nvidia in sectors where they are the most dominant and where AMD currently doesn't hold much share anyway, i.e. low-mid range OEM desktop and laptops. In the GPU space AMD are actually shifting their focus back to high end rather than trying to cement themselves as mid range price/perf specialists, they have committed to producing GPUs capable of challenging Nvidia's very best in 2020 and have also split their lines for compute and gaming. Intel certainly won't be there for some time.

For sure Nvidia isn't going to die out anytime soon, especially in high end GPUs, but I expect their share will decrease to probably around 50% in the next few years while AMD will be around 35% and Intel 15% in dGPU share.
 

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To go back to the question in the title, as a household with 4 recent (Pascal and Turing) Nvidia cards... I really hope so.

They are great products, but competition is always good. The DGPU space has effectively been owned by Green and Red since forever, with Green really dominating in recent years. Red are fighting back, and that's awesome. With a third serious player this is only going to heat up, and maybe, just maybe, we'll see some serious price action.
Here here...

Yup it is what we all want at the end of the day, decent competition will bring us more performance and better prices. whether your like the red team, green team or the new blue team, it is what we all wan to see.
 
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Besides the obvious being cost, why are all company’s using amd now days in everything? I wasn’t even aware that so many things contained and tech. I haven’t an amd cpu or gpu in yearssss I always stick to Intel and Nvidia, can’t really say it’s performance related as I never even bother to keep up to date with amd stuff, for me I always hated amd software interface as a kid and it sort of stuck to me. I’d like to start using it as I keep hearing it’s a massive price cut compared to competitors. But I also hear that don’t compete well against them, is there something I’m missing?
 
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Nvidia need to drop the **** you attitude with their GPU prices. Plus i've got zero interest in Navi, it's overpriced and is essentially a console GPU.

I'm not upgrading until at least 2022. Hopefully, by then some sanity comes back to the GPU market.

AMD have been dog **** as a competitor for years in the GPU space. A third player won't hurt the market and it definitely will benefit the consumer.

The duopoly needs to end.
 
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Yes utter decimation is an understatement.

AMD have.
The worlds fastest desktop x86 processor 3900x which i dont care what anyone says it is far more powerful than the 9900k (its just not everything can use that grunt)
The worlds fastest HEDT processors (ok in a few weeks!!) with the new 3rd gen threadrippers, intel is so far behind they might as well give this sector up.
The worlds fastest server processors - Epyc is handing the Xeon platinums there ass - properly hammering them.
And soon will have even more of a lead on the desktop with the 3950 a 16 core desktop processor.

They also have the fastest APU's and even the gpu side is in decent shape with the 5700x doing better than i thought it would when it came out.

All in all, Intel are ****** - well Techpowerup once said that about AMD, well for the time being intel are..
 
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It was built for Sony for the PS5. Everyone knows that...
Somebody best go tell Nvidia then their midrange ray tracing Jesus is beaten by a peasant console then :rolleyes:

Christ Almighty. A VERSION of Navi is going into PS5 and Xbox. Sony allegedly may have helped fund the initial R&D, but RDNA is AMD's new gaming architecture. 5500, 5700 and 5800 are all the first generation of that to get the ball rolling, PS5 and Xbox are RDNA 2 (or a hybrid 1.5 if you will). RDNA will continue past Navi.

Besides, who gives a flying **** if Navi is "essentially a console GPU"? It currently trades blows and competes with Nvidia in all but the high end, and is scalable to take on the top end too. So no, it's not a console GPU, it's a GPU design of which consoles is one application.

"essentially a console GPU" lol jog the **** on and take your PCMR ******** elsewhere.
 
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