Police dealing with incident on London Bridge amid reports of shots fired

D.P. · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:52

deuse said:
Shoot them there and then.
A person is breaking the law having a weapon in public in the first place.
And who knows what that person will do.

Does this mean the police can instantly just execute anyone who breaks the law? E.g, soemon drops litter, ***bammm***, head shot.

200sols · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:52

Didn't take long for the terrorist sympathisers to come out. Speculation of suicide vest = shooting is justified.

Yadda · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:52

Shocking attack, hopefully none of the victims are seriously hurt.

Amazing job by the public and later, the Police. The way they quickly cleared the people piled on top of the attacker was clearly something they've practiced thousands of times.

From witness reports, the end came very shortly after the attacker was reaching to lift his coat, revealing what they described as some kind of vest.

nst68 · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:53

manic111 said:
Following which he appears to have lost his knife, prior to being shot.

Terrorists (if that's what he was) are allowed to carry more than 1 knife you know.

b00merang69 · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:53

@ mmj_uk, Possibly the police use common sense and their eyes and brains to see he helped as well as the guy with his legs wrapped around him who seems to do the best job of all them.

mmj_uk · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:53

mrbell1984 said:
Just saw this, there was a report by the Sun newspaper that "the man on the bridge appeared to be wearing a suicide vest". This is why they would have shot him.

I thought the shot shouldn't have been required to be fired, however then I read that.

I can understand that then.

D.P. · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:53

Scort said:
Probably stating the obvious - but we are all armchair experts on this one, sat safe in our homes, offices, or somewhere safe on our chose smart device; viewing the videos with a safe and critical eye.

Personally - do I believe that the Police murdered/executed the guy? No. Though I base that on the same videos we have all seen so far - but I also base this on having faith in our Police officers and their training. The video does look pretty rough though, but the guy clearly makes a move - and who knows what he had on him? A bomb vest, a grenade, maybe a gun... and in the heat of the moment, there is probably no time to be issuing warnings and pleas - maybe the armed Coppers around these key places have even been given an unofficial 'shoot on site' waiver?

Here's hoping that the victims are going to be fine, that no other nutters try to carry out more attacks, and that the guy who was shot deserved it.

I don't see anyone saying the police have done something wrong. The video is curious and raises questions. The police may or may not ahve done something wrong, we will find out later.

manic111 · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:53

200sols said:
Didn't take long for the terrorist sympathisers to come out. Speculation of suicide vest = shooting is justified.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Suggesting that in the absence of good reason the rule of law should be upheld is not the same as being a terrorist sympathiser.

deuse · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:54

manic111 said:
So the man who prised the knife away from the initial perpetrator is now carrying a knife in public. Should he be shot?

Not the same as what you asked.
The guy was a hero....

I see the Corbinest are out in force try to get political points over this.

Rexton · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:54

Someone who preemptively stabbed and injured 5 people has been shot dead by trained Police. The type of Police who go through rigerous situational training.

How is this even a cause of controversey?

We should be relieved that this low-life won't be a toll on the justice and rehabilitation system, allowed to preach their hatred to others in Prison and then reintroduced into society 2 decades later.

thenewoc · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:54

manic111 said:
So the man who prised the knife away from the initial perpetrator is now carrying a knife in public. Should he be shot?

Of course not, he hasn't just stabbed 5 people. It's not a regular 1 on 1 incident, it had crossed that line to a terrorist incident.

200sols · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:54

manic111 said:
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Suggesting that in the absence of good reason the rule of law should be upheld is not the same as being a terrorist sympathiser.

So the reports of suspected suicide mission are not 'good reason' according to you?

b00merang69 · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:55

D.P. said:
Does this mean the police can instantly just execute anyone who breaks the law? E.g, soemon drops litter, ***bammm***, head shot.

Again a rhetorical question or a lack of common sense?

BTW are you drunk < some here will think so due to typos.

Deleted member 77746 · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:55

mmj_uk said:
I can understand that then.

I have just seen the video live of it happening online though I can't see the vest I can just see everyone moving away from him then 2 shots where fired and then man down.

I believe 1 police officer moved the last public man off the knife man and the police officer obviously saw something on the knife man and that was when he was shot.

gbgt2 · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:55

D.P. said:
I don't see anyone saying the police have done something wrong. The video is curious and raises questions. The police may or may not ahve done something wrong, we will find out later.

People like you are more than happy to jump to the assumption they have though aren't you

deuse · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:55

D.P. said:
I don't see anyone saying the police have done something wrong. The video is curious and raises questions. The police may or may not ahve done something wrong, we will find out later.

Your post are curious and raises questions

manic111 · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:56

deuse said:
Not the same as what you asked.
The guy was a hero....

I see the Corbinest are out in force try to get political points over this.

I've never voted Labour in my life and have no intention of doing so at the upcoming election either. Until Brexit, I have always voted Tory, and now vote Lib Dem.

mmj_uk · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:56

b00merang69 said:
@ mmj_uk, Possible the police use common sense and their eyes and brains to see he helped as well as the guy with his legs wrapped around him who seems to do the best job of all

but you're assuming they saw him disarm the guy, what you're saying is if the guy running down the bridge with the knife had been shot in error by some armed copper who had just turned up late then it's okay because:

"Shoot them there and then.
A person is breaking the law having a weapon in public in the first place.
And who knows what that person will do."

You have to have some kind of justification to shoot someone dead, even if armed.

EssexBoy · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:56

Some really stupid comments about this shooting.... He should have stayed down if he valued his life and sends a good message to others that try do do this type of thing.

Yadda · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:57

Police statement expected in next 5 minutes.

b00merang69 · 29 Nov 2019 at 15:58

So is my Amazon parcel but he has been at 10 stops for 90mins hence the wet hands above as I was worried he come while I had a "pitstop".