LG 38GL950G - 3840x1600/G-Sync/144Hz

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MicroLED is a backlighting technology and will still be paired with traditional LCD panel technologies like IPS and VA so the fundamental panel performance characteristics will remain similar. It’s a long long way off though, we have barely had any FALD backlights so far and are just starting to see the first MiniLED backlights now
All those large format displays you see at the cinema and airport lobbies are using primitive MicroLED technology, and they're definitely not using any LCD technology in them. They are all using self emissive pixels. That's the whole gist of the technology, to leapfrog OLED.
 
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Sorry yes you’re quite right, I’m getting my micros and my minis muddled up on a Saturday evening :) still, they are a long long way off being used in desktop monitors, like I said mini LED is still very new. That’s the one I meant was paired with current LCD panel spec
 
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any news about this panel LM375QW2 without g-sync cause acer one is the same and i don't plan to pay that 500$ premium and i like the size and aspect ratio on this.
 
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The other two problems with the LG UltraGear 38GL950G-B monitor are ..

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3840x1600 is 4:2:2 (8-bit + FRC)

8-bit + FRC is fake HDR

8-bit + FRC can simulate HDR10 content

Real HDR is 10-bit and future 12-bit HDR

38GL950G-B can only run 4:4:4 @120Hz @negative 3840x1600 resolutions. ..

Technically Real HDR is entry level HDR 500 and not HDR 400 as there's confusion about 8-bit + FRC
 
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LG OLED has the best colors because of True Black and each pixel self controlled. Where VA/QLED and TN IPS are all using old backlit technology which gives a bit of a glow, IPS has the worst glowing blacks....IPS colours are not as good as VA panels ....

Go look at the ROG SWIFT PG35VQ colour quality VS UltraGear 38GL950G-B. . . Are the best between the two displays technology's in this 21:9 format. Not saying LG Nano IPS is bad, definitely Nano IPS the best that IPS technology gets at the moment...MicroLED will replace VA IPS TN very soon and a direct competition to OLED tech.

Lol in maybe 10-20 years time IF they can make the LED's small enough. The prototype large MircroLED screen they showed after 7 years development uses LEDs that are 1mm thick. They are currently struggling to get them small enough to make a 75" screen which will need LEDs that are only 0.15mm thick.

In order to make a sensible desktop monitor of around 32" - 40" size they will need to make the microLEDs as small as 0.02mm thick. I am not saying that at some point in the future that we wont get LED's that small but its a hard ask and the chances are Microled will just become limited to large TVs/monitors only of around 65" maybe 55" max. Thats fine for people to have as TVs or big gaming screens in their lounge.
 
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Well you said it your self!!

"You should by now be able to buy a 40" 4k 120Hz OLED 1000 HDR screen with an anti glare coating and a Gysnc module for £1000. And it would make a profit for the manufacturers"

What's 100% wrong with that statement is you just cutout all the people that play games for years upto 240Hz level and now you're saying all they need is 120Hz. I was shocked to with how many people are in the 144Hz+ level playing games on the lowest settings just for the crazy frame rates... Hay all the power too them!. . Even a few of them in this thread enjoying the 160fps+ experience. That like me telling you go buy older Hz capped 60Hz TV.....TV's and TV's displays by no means are perfect... Take LG TV for example ....as I own one.. . One of the things I hate the most about LG TV's is it's OS.....WebOS is garbage! ...... absolutely nothing to brag about that's for sure. I 100% agree with you I wish there was one display to rule them all but that's not the case ...if they made 21:9 240Hz 12-bit HDR 4000 Ultra BlueRay levels for cheap....I to would jump on board in a second.

The two big Technology's getting pushed in 2020 is HDMI 2.1 and Display Port 2.0 Crazy bandwidth .. .Can you say 8K 12-bit HDR @240Hz now can be a really.

No there will always be a specialised market for people who want or need to game at 240Hz. That is a very small market atm. They can have the IPS screens.

120hz now and then hopefully 144Hz OLED screens would more than satisfy 99% of all monitor buyers.

But my point was and I still stand by it, there should be a plethora of OLED 120Hz gaming monitors out by now and then a few manufacturers could concentrate on lessor res high frequency screens for the more serious fps gamer.
 
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Competitive gaming will always be around high refresh rate, low input lag and low motion blur monitors, its speed first image quality second. Main disadvantage is you need to have both cpu and gpu top notch where high res 3k+ gaming cpu matters less and your GPU bound.
 
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any news about this panel LM375QW2 without g-sync cause acer one is the same and i don't plan to pay that 500$ premium and i like the size and aspect ratio on this.

LG just revealed their setup for 2020!

http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2019/12/lg-2020-ultra-monitors-ideal-for-professionals-and-gamers-alike/

38WN95C will probably be the one that most people in this thread is interested in!

Really nice it got Thunderbolt 3 connectivity, I really hope we will be able to get higher bandwith with the new upcoming Nvidia cards, than DP 1.4 that we are currently stuck with.

Hopefully that is enough to run this beast of a monitor at 144 hz 10 bit color and HDR600.
 
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LG just revealed their setup for 2020!

http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2019/12/lg-2020-ultra-monitors-ideal-for-professionals-and-gamers-alike/

38WN95C will probably be the one that most people in this thread is interested in!

Really nice it got Thunderbolt 3 connectivity, I really hope we will be able to get higher bandwith with the new upcoming Nvidia cards, than DP 1.4 that we are currently stuck with.

Hopefully that is enough to run this beast of a monitor at 144 hz 10 bit color and HDR600.

Lol, so before the 38GL950G is even available, they announce its successor... genius :rolleyes:. That said, it baffles me why they are announcing it now, when typical monitor delays dictate that it won't be available until 2022 anyway.
 
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LG just revealed their setup for 2020!

http://www.lgnewsroom.com/2019/12/lg-2020-ultra-monitors-ideal-for-professionals-and-gamers-alike/

38WN95C will probably be the one that most people in this thread is interested in!

Really nice it got Thunderbolt 3 connectivity, I really hope we will be able to get higher bandwith with the new upcoming Nvidia cards, than DP 1.4 that we are currently stuck with.

Hopefully that is enough to run this beast of a monitor at 144 hz 10 bit color and HDR600.

SHAME. I expected at least a high-end monitor with true 10-bit 5120x2160p 144hz HDR1000 + G Sync Ulti, now that AMD can also use GSync Modules. Just crank up that quality to the max!
Or is the cable bandwidth not enough? I would go and buy a FiberOptic DP1.4 connector! Is LG holding back on pushing HDR on ultrawides to the market? Guess I will be staying with my 3840x1600 75Hz for another year. Hopefully someone else goes ahead to makes a true HDR panel.
 
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Disappointing especially if they are announced for 2020 probably means most of them you wont be able to buy until early 2021.

I wish the time between them being announced and actually able to buy them was shorter.
 
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That is great to know finally the freesync equivalent gets some form of news, it also means wait another year to get the newer better product if not more.

I just wish it didn't take too long to release the product from the announcement time, its ridiculous the 950G still is nowhere to be found and expensive as a very good oled tv. I don't see why a 49 inch from samsung 1440p super ultra wide should be cheaper than the lg 38 inchers. And now Sammy has competition from practically every monitor company so prices are better in most parts especially for the 2FHD 49inchers so that means progress for us the consumers and possibly decent prices for the 1440p versions at some point.

Spec wise sounds ok and would depend on price but for a monitor that you practically will be able to buy in 2021 by then for this money you should be getting more zones and HDR1000 and or hdmi 2.1 if not mini led.
 
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Disappointing especially if they are announced for 2020 probably means most of them you wont be able to buy until early 2021.

I wish the time between them being announced and actually able to buy them was shorter.

Yup, this would be a great monitor TODAY, at the right price of course (not 38GL950G silly money)... a year from now, which it will be at least before we see it available, who knows? It will be a different landscape then, with HDMI 2.1 GPUs most likely, many more TV's with HDMI 2.1 etc. This could be an overpriced lemon by then. :rolleyes:

Given how much LG are still selling their 34" Ultrawides for, I don't think anyone should be expecting much difference from the 38GL950G pricing tbh.
 
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Yup, this would be a great monitor TODAY, at the right price of course (not 38GL950G silly money)... a year from now, which it will be at least before we see it available, who knows? It will be a different landscape then, with HDMI 2.1 GPUs most likely, many more TV's with HDMI 2.1 etc. This could be an overpriced lemon by then. :rolleyes:

Given how much LG are still selling their 34" Ultrawides for, I don't think anyone should be expecting much difference from the 38GL950G pricing tbh.
Exactly price is key and i am sure LG will put a hefty price tag.

We are seeing 43inch behemoths which are already out with hdr 600 and hdr1000 and 120 and 144hz. These things are out for some months now (well the Acer just a month ago), and though niche they are cheaper. Fair enough they are not ips and the Asus version turned out lemony or so they say on tech sites, but generally i think LG is taking advantage of the fact that there was no other one doing a 38incher like the 950G. Now Acer has announced one and i think its the same panel not sure if anyone else is also going to compete on that market, I hope there is more.

I know a lot of people will say HDR is not matured yet on windows and blah blah, but since TVs do it for years especially the expensive ones (see panasonic DX902b back in 2016 was a beast and was just LCD) I want that tech in the screen i spend most of my day with especially when consuming video and gaming content. I have an HDR tv with edge light though and its not the best, I have seen proper HDR on oled and expensive lcd's though and it blew my mind. I wish there was a monitor out there for a price that is not stupid and would go and buy it, i am really in need of a new monitor as my 16:10 LG from 2007 is really crappy in color reproduction and tiny only 24inch :p.
 
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So, if the info regarding 38WN95C is correct, LG is capping it (max refresh rate = 144 Hz) to restrain the competition with 38GL950G instead of just making the best product they can and competing with other companies on the market.

There is some logic in that, I think.
 
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