It seems almost as divisive as Brexit in the US with some swallowing the propaganda whole while others are appealing to reason. I'm actually kind of surprised by the response in the US - far broader range of perspectives than I'm used to seeing.
US kills Iran's General Soleimani
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Soldato
Why lol?
That article is written off the back of these 2 quoted articles.
Here.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/remember-irans-role-in-9-11-1473290470
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/the-iran-al-qaeda-conundrum
Soldato
Load of ***** that he helped 9/11 happen all because there's a vague agreement between Sunni and Shia extremists to target Americans.
Anyone who believes that is as thick as pig ****.
Anyone who believes that is as thick as pig ****.
Israel has tried to get him a few times but during the Obama era he was effectively off limits. In the years before that his role would have made him complicated to touch without declaring war on Iran or a resolution through the UN, etc. which likely Russian and so one wouldn't have agreed to. More recent times with his engagement with activities outside of Iran going after him has become more murky legally.
Well it’s too closely linked to Trump himself so that helps polarises it somewhat.
Well Trump is doubling down
I don't think this is talk/bluster either this time as much as it is intended to dissuade Iran from responding in kind.
This one is actually kind of genius though it might take a moment to think about:
EDIT: Doh punchline is cut off - have to click the image to see it.
I don't think this is talk/bluster either this time as much as it is intended to dissuade Iran from responding in kind.
This one is actually kind of genius though it might take a moment to think about:
EDIT: Doh punchline is cut off - have to click the image to see it.
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Just hope the Russians are out doing their usual bombing of hospitals and strafing of ambulances at the time. Wouldn't want scores of dead Russia troops all over the news too.
They have a lot of proxy forces and while they'd struggle for air superiority plenty of tanks and more importantly lots of missiles, etc. so able to make fighting costly.
Well, not overall no (in comparison to America's military strength), but if the USA engages in a war with Iran with "boots on the ground" it will get very bloody, and very fast. The Iraq war would seem tame in comparison..
Comprehensive article on a Iran/US war.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2019/7/8/18693297/us-iran-war-trump-nuclear-iraq
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2019/7/8/18693297/us-iran-war-trump-nuclear-iraq
i wonder how many yanks said that about Vietnam ?
Caporegime
Vietnam wasn't. They had no ability to project their military strength beyond their borders. Internally they were heavily supported by China and Russia.
Soldato
Soldato
Apparently Trump's now talking about hitting cultural sites if Iran fights back.That's a war crime I think...
Didn't have the tech back then though, drones, precision targeting, intelligence etc. Could they not cripple Iran within a week from carrier strike group?
Not if Iran just happen to have base next door to it for that very reason. Besides plenty of people inside Iran hate the regime. Its a set if religious nut jobs overthrowing a royal family who couldn't give a toss about people to a set of religious nut jobs who couldnt give a **** about people with added oppression thrown in.
People were better off with the old Shah, hence why the religious nut jobs rule by fear. I recommend Jack Straws book in Iran. The English job.
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This is just another captalist war based on phoney reasons to fuel tax money into arms & for trump to distract from impeachment, Vietnam, Iraq, etc were never legitimate wars, there has not been a legit war for the US since WW2, the only more recent UK one was the Falklands, all wars since are just to do war games/oil/modern day invasions/regime change to force US dollar backed currencies - the west doesn't want countries that have gold backed currency or oil backed. Their allies are UAE, nor dare they attack them .... right now.
This 'way of life' has been going on for decades since WW2, it's kind of weird people act surprised, gossip about it, debate, the conversation is short - its another invasion under the guise of 'democracy'. Wars make profit and empower the rich with real world forces.
After this war, probably lasting another ten years, another one will pop up, the US wants to be at war all the time to justify its spending budget & gain slave nations, tethered to its central bank, in addition it will come up with all sorts of nationalistic reasons the right wing will swallow down and bend over for to gradually take away the rights of its citerzens, saying we all need to be scanned and surveyed constantly 'for our safety' etc etc, which is rubbish of course, its just tracking and control as far as they can get away with to the point where it won't tip off the general populace.
This 'way of life' has been going on for decades since WW2, it's kind of weird people act surprised, gossip about it, debate, the conversation is short - its another invasion under the guise of 'democracy'. Wars make profit and empower the rich with real world forces.
After this war, probably lasting another ten years, another one will pop up, the US wants to be at war all the time to justify its spending budget & gain slave nations, tethered to its central bank, in addition it will come up with all sorts of nationalistic reasons the right wing will swallow down and bend over for to gradually take away the rights of its citerzens, saying we all need to be scanned and surveyed constantly 'for our safety' etc etc, which is rubbish of course, its just tracking and control as far as they can get away with to the point where it won't tip off the general populace.
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A very depressing read and it would appear we're guilty of collective amnesia.