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Essentially it’ll be just a modern pulsar Gti-r. Specs are quite similar it’ll be more reliable but I think I’d just save the money and keep me pulsar.
Toyota Yaris GR4 4x4 Rally going into production.....
Soldato
And then some. The GR has been redesigned from the ground up with a bespoke bodyshell (different panels, CF roof section, aluminium used extensively) and suspension geometry – and the engine and drivetrain is completely different; 4cyl supercharged vs. 3cyl turbo in the GR and FWD for the GRMN, AWD for the GR. Optional front and rear Torsen LSDs for the GR.
For those who don't have one, a really nice one can easily cost over £20k these days – and you've still got to deal with all the associated drawbacks and limitations. Swings and roundabouts. Plenty of second-hand kit around for similar money. If that's what you want, fine, etc.
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Yen to £ apparently comes out to £27k or so from what I read earlier. I reckon will be priced higher than that. There's a lot of hand building involved in building the car and even the roofline is lower than what the standard yaris will be. Aluminium bonnet and doors and rear hatch I think + carbon fibre roof. While it won't be cheap but could hold it's value well, even become a future collectible if built in low numbers
Caporegime
Lardy it is around 400 Kilo lighter than a focus RS. That's a huge amount. Most front wheel drive hot hatches do not even weigh less than the Yaris.
It needs a big wing though. Will finish it off nicely.
It does seem a bit strange though as Toyota had no need to make this as homologation doesn't exist now and they have gone pretty hardcore with it as most of it is bespoke. Especially as the new Supra is essentially a Z4 in a dress!?
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Yeah, all that plus a 4WD system for a smallish production run car makes me think it's likely to be priced closer to £40k than £30k. The biggest issue will be if it's priced alongside the likes of the Golf R, Audi S3, BMW M135i, AMG A35 and Focus RS will anyone walk past all of them to buy a Toyota Yaris instead......
I'm still glad Toyota are mental enough to make a 4WD 275bhp Yaris
Actually, regarding the power output, am I the only one wondering how reliable a little 1.6 3-pot engine will be with than many ponies going though it?
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Yeah, all that plus a 4WD system for a smallish production run car makes me think it's likely to be priced closer to £40k than £30k. The biggest issue will be if it's priced alongside the likes of the Golf R, Audi S3, BMW M135i, AMG A35 and Focus RS will anyone walk past all of them to buy a Toyota Yaris instead......
I'm still glad Toyota are mental enough to make a 4WD 275bhp Yaris
Actually, regarding the power output, am I the only one wondering how reliable a little 1.6 3-pot engine will be with than many ponies going though it?
257bhp.
It’s amazing, on paper at least. Can’t wait to see the reviews tbh, I have no doubt it’ll get a good response.
Yeah, all that plus a 4WD system for a smallish production run car makes me think it's likely to be priced closer to £40k than £30k. The biggest issue will be if it's priced alongside the likes of the Golf R, Audi S3, BMW M135i, AMG A35 and Focus RS will anyone walk past all of them to buy a Toyota Yaris instead......
I'm still glad Toyota are mental enough to make a 4WD 275bhp Yaris
Actually, regarding the power output, am I the only one wondering how reliable a little 1.6 3-pot engine will be with than many ponies going though it?
Cooling has been an issue on 3 cylinder engines. There probably won't be much overhead for tuning it :/
It would have been nicer with a 6cyl even it would add some weight
Caporegime
Nissan unveiled a 400hp 1.5 liter 3 cylinder turbo motor 5 years ago so I would have thought this Toyota unit would be pretty good. Engine management has come on so much since the old rally rep days where throwing fuel at the problem was the only way to keep them cool!
they're meant to be the hearing mans replacement for a 6 - no ? - at least the bmw ones, if you listen on utube
edit: ok it was the merc
the new CLA estate, looks more practical (get a bike in the back) and, like the BMW 3 cylinder engines, the 164bhp sounds like the lamented 6 cyclinder NA's -
(saloon https://youtu.be/j5ZVhLNG9X4?t=451 ) sunroof looks obligatory for light inside
edit: ok it was the merc
the new CLA estate, looks more practical (get a bike in the back) and, like the BMW 3 cylinder engines, the 164bhp sounds like the lamented 6 cyclinder NA's -
(saloon https://youtu.be/j5ZVhLNG9X4?t=451 ) sunroof looks obligatory for light inside
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Quite a few MK8 Fiesta ST's running 260bhp on owners forums and hasn't appeared to be any issues. Still early days I guess but hope reliability isn't an issue as it does sound like an awesome package all in.
Caporegime
Reliability between Ford and Toyota will not be the same!
Soldato
Needs to sell over 9000 in Europe alone for homologation purposes. Not a casual task!
25k in total, too, apparently. Mad numbers.
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can pretty much see how this will go
people will fawn over the fact its a lightweight 3door hatch with 4wd big power and a quirky little 3 pot. it will get rave reviews from everyone and everyone will say how great a car it is and how brave toyota are for launching it........ then lease a golf
people will fawn over the fact its a lightweight 3door hatch with 4wd big power and a quirky little 3 pot. it will get rave reviews from everyone and everyone will say how great a car it is and how brave toyota are for launching it........ then lease a golf
Caporegime
What is it being homologated for? I didn't even think it existed anymore! That is awesome news if true as they will not be expensive as I thought they would!