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Intel to launch Ryzen killer - the Core i9-10990XE (rumour)

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https://www.hardwaretimes.com/intel...en-9-3950x-with-a-new-22c-44t-core-i9-10990x/

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/intel-core-i9-10990xe-cpu-specs

The rumor mill’s been abuzz with the remarkable possibility that Intel might be working on a 22-core i9-10990X to retake the multicore performance crown from AMD.

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The TDP (thermal design power) value is what really stands out from the CPU-Z screenshot. The i9-10990XE is seemingly rated with a 380W TDP, the highest we've ever seen on any processor, even the 64-core AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X monster at 280W.

Totally unverified but...... 380watts!!!!
 
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Have to love the way Hardwaretimes worded that.

Intel might counter the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X with a new 22C/44T Core i9-10990X

lol.... are they really comparing a 22 core HEDT 380 Watt TDP CPU that in real terms will likely pull 600 Watts to a Mainstream to a 16 core 130 real Watts CPU? do they think its going to cost $750? the 10980XE cost $1,500 this thing will not be a penny under $2000 and for that money you can get a 3970X that will eat this for breakfast.

What i said here... At 5Ghz it barely even keeps pace with a stock entry level TR3

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33285107/
 
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If it's HEDT then it's not competing with Ryzen, it's competing with Threadripper. Also it will probably lose badly in pretty much everything.

If the 380W TDP is true then it's in big trouble too. Intel have a history of stating the TDP at stock speeds and ignoring boost.
 
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380W will be at base clocks, only have to look at 10980XE at 5Ghz and its pulling 600W, this will be even higher. Will need a large custom loop to cool this, imagine this and 2 graphics cards ..
 
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Anyone that believes this rubbish needs to get their head checked. Intel are running scared and are trying whatever tactics they can to save face. They need to just accept that they've dropped the ball big time and are losing huge ground to AMD.

At these power requirements and likely over-inflated price, you've got to be mad to get one of these when Ryzen is so much better in every way. There is so much more to things than simple peak performace or framerate. When you've got a product that's better-made, utilises less power, kicks out less heat, and is far cheaper, how on earth can you try and compare?
 
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With dies this large, how many fully working dies will Intel be able to get from a single wafer? I would bet it wouldn't be that many and even selling them at a couple of grand each would likely make them a loss?
 
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With dies this large, how many fully working dies will Intel be able to get from a single wafer? I would bet it wouldn't be that many and even selling them at a couple of grand each would likely make them a loss?

These will be 28 core dies salvaged, they are 700mm^2.

On a 300mm Wafer Intel would get about 50 dies with 95% yields, a 300mm 14nm costs $4.800. Comes to about $95 per die.

Its not so much the cost, AMD's 64 core chips will cost about half that with the IO die, its the amount of wafers used to make those dies, AMD get about 1,200 8 core chiplets out of the same size 7nm wafer, about 150 TR 3990X CPU's, when you have a limited wafer supply, which apparently Intel do, using that many wafers to make your CPU's really hurts your supply. you have to charge a lot of money for the CPU's to make up for lost wafers you could be making many more much smaller mainstream CPU's with.

It makes one wonder if Intel suddenly have a huge supply of them because someone cancelled their massive order of 28 core server chips and need to get rid of them, how could that have possibly happened? who else makes X86 server chips???????
 
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BEHOLD THE POWER OF OUR 380W i9-10990XE RYZEN KILLER!!!
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Hilarious.

You know intel are in the mud when they are trying to compare a new HEDT 22c part to a mainstream 16c Ryzen part. Not to mention 10x the power draw.

What it should be compared with is the 3960x which is a HEDT 24c part which will most likely eat it for breakfast
 
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Hilarious.

You know intel are in the mud when they are trying to compare a new HEDT 22c part to a mainstream 16c Ryzen part. Not to mention 10x the power draw.

What it should be compared with is the 3960x which is a HEDT 24c part which will most likely eat it for breakfast

Oh yeah. All core 5Ghz 10980XE is still bites the dust from all core 4.3Ghz 3960X by more than 22%. Which is the amount of cores (22%) the 10990XE would bring.

And doubt would be cheaper than the 3970X either.
 
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