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Unfortunately not. HBM works but the core is just broken in "tuning". ALT+R applying settings in 3D mode doesn't even work, may apply and then drops off!
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The Radeon VII Owners Thread
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I didn't win the silicone lottery with this card so 1900 core @ 1188mv with 1100hbm gets me a t-junction of 95-100 with the AlphaCool block. Hoping for lower temps although it's never throttled.
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1088mv isn't bad at all. I think you should aim for 1000mv for 1800mhz. Your junction temps seem hauntingly familiar, even with a D5 pump turned upto 4000rpm (4800 been max) the alphacool block was terrible with that awful design. I did a post on there a while ago regarding it. I'll see if I can find it for you.
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@MeddlE
Just a pair of fresh figures on the alphacool block performance. Worst case using FS ultra stress test!
New HWinfo out too beta 3740.
Stock clocks with 948mv:
Sweet spot setting, 1901mhz, 1150mhz HBM 1000mv:
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@MeddlE
Had a bit of a moment thinking about vii blocks after watching 8 Packs coverage from Computex 2019, regarding all the research and development he's been upto with regards to getting the very best out of water cooling.
I've now worked out why the Alphacool block doesn't match the likes of EKWB and Bykski for Junction temps!
1: The flow is top-bottom not left-right onto the core. (alphacool top-bottom)
2: The fins are all the same length so have the more surface area. (The alphacool has the centre at a reduced high)
Cutting the fins smaller in the centre been the hottest part of the die is crazy!
So EK and Bykski are the best performance due to design.
Barrow maybe similar to Alphacool having reduced height fins in the centre but left-right flow may help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRNQE-zAhaE&t=
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Well after a week of fun and games, I've got an update on my experience with 2 brands of water blocks!
Settings used for the testing....
1900mhz core 1140mhz HBM @ 1000mv. (my daily)
3D Mark Fire Strike Ultra Stress test. (3 runs to warm up the loop)
22.5C ambient on both days.
Alphacool Eisblock GPX-A Plexi Light AMD Radeon VII - incl. backplate
This was best case as during the week I rebuilt the card twice and it got worse!
EK-Vector Radeon VII Graphics Card Water Block - Copper + Plexi
EK-Vector Radeon VII Backplate - Black
Yes, it is. I even did not do ddu from 19.5 and it works like charm. MorePowerTool for overclocking (and set min rpm=max rpm just for any case ) and AMD interface to put memory and 99% for the power. I can post the settings later. My real average freq is 2060MHz
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Thanks @Chud_Jenny I remember your posts well. At the time I'd just got the AC block and couldn't justify shelling out again. Will post my results when it arrives.
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Ok cool, you may be up a degree or two on me as my loop is large. 3x360 & 1x120mm rads lol. Did you order the backplate too?
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Yes, black backplate, nickel and plexi block. 1 X 240 and 1 X 120 both in push pull.
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EK block is here but haven't had time to fit it. Also got myself a FreeSync monitor finally. Which leads me to my current problem.
I'm still running 19.4.1 on Win7x64. It has been fine and I'm a firm believer in leaving things alone if they are working.
But now it isn't. With FreeSync on I'm getting brightness Flickr while gaming. Turn FreeSync off and the image is stable. Searching the web reveals I'm not alone in this problem but also I haven't been able to find a solution.
Apparently different driver revisions change the intensity of the flickering, as do different cables. I'm using a Club3d cable that I bought at the same time as the monitor.
Has anyone else had this issue and managed to resolve it? I can't find anything that states the real reason for this be it panel, GPU or cable (although some looks quality cables are questionable).
Also what driver revision works best for you with your VII?
Thanks in advance.
I'm still running 19.4.1 on Win7x64. It has been fine and I'm a firm believer in leaving things alone if they are working.
But now it isn't. With FreeSync on I'm getting brightness Flickr while gaming. Turn FreeSync off and the image is stable. Searching the web reveals I'm not alone in this problem but also I haven't been able to find a solution.
Apparently different driver revisions change the intensity of the flickering, as do different cables. I'm using a Club3d cable that I bought at the same time as the monitor.
Has anyone else had this issue and managed to resolve it? I can't find anything that states the real reason for this be it panel, GPU or cable (although some looks quality cables are questionable).
Also what driver revision works best for you with your VII?
Thanks in advance.
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19.7.5 is the last driver that core oc works without using power tables ect.. Windows 7 is game over on Tuesday so I'd move over to windows 10 asap. If you have a coa sticker for 7 it will activate windows 10. Just use it during the install for activating the same edition. (Home for home, pro for pro).
I'd give 20.1.1 a go on windows 10 and see if your issues subside. Make sure you install the latest chipset driver first too.
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Cheers, I'll give 19.7.5 a go. Already using power tables. I'll pass on win 10 though. MS support is ending on Tuesday that is all.
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Issue still there. Tried 19.7.5 and 19.12.1 but no change. Tried the cable that came with the monitor, also no change.
At this point I'm wondering if I should send the monitor back? The issue really seems to be FreeSync though and I've not read of anyone fixing it by changing monitor.
At this point I'm wondering if I should send the monitor back? The issue really seems to be FreeSync though and I've not read of anyone fixing it by changing monitor.
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@Chud_Jenny so my tjunction hit 112 in GTA on the AlphaCool while running 2560x1440 with Freesync. Now with the EK block it has topped out at 58! As you said "night and day". Lesson learned.
I could not sell the AC block on as I have a conscience. Also the state of the block was shocking.
I could not sell the AC block on as I have a conscience. Also the state of the block was shocking.
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Only just seen your message. Didn't get an email notification. I'm glad you ended up with a good result!
Hello guys,
I am getting some random system freezes while playing or even doing normal browsing.
The following is being listed in Event Viewer:
Event ID:1000
Faulting application name: Radeonsoftware.exe, version: 10.1.2.1788, time stamp: 0x5df7cf62
Faulting module name: Radeonsoftware.exe, version: 10.1.2.1788, time stamp: 0x5df7cf62
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000004037e7
Faulting process ID: 0x2c40
Faulting application start time: 0x01d5d165bdf3f95a
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\AMD\CNext\CNext\Radeonsoftware.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\AMD\CNext\CNext\Radeonsoftware.exe
Report ID: bdc9c1ea-c68f-4733-8d11-ba0774c1fc83
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event ID: 1001
Fault bucket 1487141497610819916, type 4
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0
Problem signature:
P1: Radeonsoftware.exe
P2: 10.1.2.1788
P3: 5df7cf62
P4: Radeonsoftware.exe
P5: 10.1.2.1788
P6: 5df7cf62
P7: c0000005
P8: 00000000004037e7
P9:
P10:
Attached files:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9AA9.tmp.dmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9BB4.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9BC5.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9BC5.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9BE5.tmp.txt
These files may be available here:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_Radeonsoftware.e_2d15365b53a380df6b3ce6b4fab7cd399ae9a552_8e408f0d_ea3a4c41-b748-46aa-a362-1175fab95ae3
Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: bdc9c1ea-c68f-4733-8d11-ba0774c1fc83
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 02bf88a692555ec2a4a3635017d5d94c
Cab Guid: 0
Current Radeon Version is 19.12.3
Event ID 16384
Successfully scheduled Software Protection service for re-start at 2020-01-22T22:50:58Z. Reason: RulesEngine.
Any tips of what I can do to resolve it. Already uninstalled and re installed the driver.
I am getting some random system freezes while playing or even doing normal browsing.
The following is being listed in Event Viewer:
Event ID:1000
Faulting application name: Radeonsoftware.exe, version: 10.1.2.1788, time stamp: 0x5df7cf62
Faulting module name: Radeonsoftware.exe, version: 10.1.2.1788, time stamp: 0x5df7cf62
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000004037e7
Faulting process ID: 0x2c40
Faulting application start time: 0x01d5d165bdf3f95a
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\AMD\CNext\CNext\Radeonsoftware.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\AMD\CNext\CNext\Radeonsoftware.exe
Report ID: bdc9c1ea-c68f-4733-8d11-ba0774c1fc83
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event ID: 1001
Fault bucket 1487141497610819916, type 4
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0
Problem signature:
P1: Radeonsoftware.exe
P2: 10.1.2.1788
P3: 5df7cf62
P4: Radeonsoftware.exe
P5: 10.1.2.1788
P6: 5df7cf62
P7: c0000005
P8: 00000000004037e7
P9:
P10:
Attached files:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9AA9.tmp.dmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9BB4.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9BC5.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9BC5.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER9BE5.tmp.txt
These files may be available here:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_Radeonsoftware.e_2d15365b53a380df6b3ce6b4fab7cd399ae9a552_8e408f0d_ea3a4c41-b748-46aa-a362-1175fab95ae3
Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: bdc9c1ea-c68f-4733-8d11-ba0774c1fc83
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 02bf88a692555ec2a4a3635017d5d94c
Cab Guid: 0
Current Radeon Version is 19.12.3
Event ID 16384
Successfully scheduled Software Protection service for re-start at 2020-01-22T22:50:58Z. Reason: RulesEngine.
Any tips of what I can do to resolve it. Already uninstalled and re installed the driver.
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I'd ddu your current driver in safe mode. Then if you are running an AMD cpu make sure you have the latest chipset driver installed first then reinstall the latest 20.1.3 and see how you get on.