NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

JediFragger · 20 Jan 2020 at 12:02

ghuk said:
Crikey, I'm still rocking a GTX980 in my rig. Maybe its finally time to 'upgrade' parts of my PC. I only game at 1920 x 1080 with a G Sync monitor. Any recommendations for a GFX card chaps?

For 1080 or will you move to 1440p at some point? If the latter then 2070Super.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-0a5-kf.html

opethdisciple · 20 Jan 2020 at 13:05

Don't forget 2020 is the year Intel enter the GPU space! (Apparently)

So consoles, AMD and now Intel for competition for Nvidia.

Poneros · 20 Jan 2020 at 14:36

Interesting.

The EVGA KO in this review is one of the first RTX 2060 (non-Super) cards to be based on a larger "TU104" silicon, while the PCB design of this card is identical to that of EVGA's GTX 1660 Ti Ultra graphics cards. See what we mean? NVIDIA created an RTX 2060 out of a TU104 for EVGA, by enabling 30 out of 48 streaming multiprocessors. Most RTX 2060 cards are TU106 based (30 out of 36 SMs being enabled). The RTX 2060 KO from EVGA has the exact same specs as the RTX 2060, and you neither miss out on, nor gain any features from the card being TU104-based.

Man, Nvidia's margins must be bonkers.

Quartz · 20 Jan 2020 at 15:20

Poneros said:
Interesting.

TLDR: slightly faster, cheaper, and a lot noisier.

Richdog · 21 Jan 2020 at 10:07

opethdisciple said:
Don't forget 2020 is the year Intel enter the GPU space! (Apparently)

So consoles, AMD and now Intel for competition for Nvidia.

Intel are almost no competition as their discrete GPU's are reportedly very low-end.

scubes · 21 Jan 2020 at 12:15

see overclockers on Facebook posted the specs of the 3080 and the 3070 cards yesterday.

Gregster · 21 Jan 2020 at 12:37

scubes said:
see overclockers on Facebook posted the specs of the 3080 and the 3070 cards yesterday.

Did they? Missed that

kevcampbell · 21 Jan 2020 at 12:54

Here is the leaked specs for the 3070 and 3080 https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7005...070-leaked-specs-up-20gb-gddr6-ram/index.html

KillBoY_UK · 21 Jan 2020 at 13:05

kevcampbell said:
Here is the leaked specs for the 3070 and 3080 https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7005...070-leaked-specs-up-20gb-gddr6-ram/index.html

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33297578

give all the rumours we have had for such a long time on big navi I don't trust "leaks" like this. Until we start seeing PCB leaks or something else more tangible

Quartz · 21 Jan 2020 at 13:08

Gregster said:
Did they? Missed that

They only linked to the Tweaktown article.

Gregster · 21 Jan 2020 at 13:16

Quartz said:
They only linked to the Tweaktown article.

Ahhh cheers Bud.

ghuk · 22 Jan 2020 at 09:54

JediFragger said:
For 1080 or will you move to 1440p at some point? If the latter then 2070Super.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-0a5-kf.html

Thanks fella, I'm sticking at 1080 for the time being as I'm happy with my current G Sync monitor, however its more to play the latest titles with good frame rates. Been debating picking up Red Dead Redemption 2 for a while now, I hear thats a pretty demanding title on PC......

opethdisciple · 22 Jan 2020 at 10:50

ghuk said:
Thanks fella, I'm sticking at 1080 for the time being as I'm happy with my current G Sync monitor, however its more to play the latest titles with good frame rates. Been debating picking up Red Dead Redemption 2 for a while now, I hear thats a pretty demanding title on PC......

Runs fine on a 1080 @ 1440p. Use the Digital Foundry settings. Looks and runs great.

ghuk · 22 Jan 2020 at 10:52

opethdisciple said:
Runs fine on a 1080 @ 1440p. Use the Digital Foundry settings. Looks and runs great.

Cheers mate, thats really helpful info. Will investigate this :0)

BigBANGtheory · 22 Jan 2020 at 13:23

Poneros said:
Interesting.

Man, Nvidia's margins must be bonkers.

They are especially on the high end parts fuelled by a lack of production volumes.

b00merang69 · 22 Jan 2020 at 13:33

Might even be better at 1440p over 1080p depending what CPU you have (and the actual games engine).

Grim5 · 22 Jan 2020 at 14:11

BigBANGtheory said:
They are especially on the high end parts fuelled by a lack of production volumes.

mans yet it's only slightly higher than pascal

aoaaron · 22 Jan 2020 at 16:20

Perfect_Chaos said:
The 3070 needs to be practically on par with the 2080Ti, if the 3080 = a 2080Ti then this is going to be yet another disappointing generation. Which would be a big mistake with new consoles around the corner.

I think thats just not going to happen.

A 3070 will probably be as powerful as a 2080S or a little more.
3080 will probably be a bit better than a 2080ti.
3080ti will probably be a lot better than a 2080ti.

Thats me being optimistic.
I hope they increase the VRAM this generation as I'm genuinely scared with the new consoles that the higher end cards might become VRAM gimped in more complex games as texture sizes are bound to increase. Releasing another set of 8GB VRAM cards at the 2080 price is going to be a bit of a joke.

I don't think you're wrong at all though. If Nvidia were to go all out and release 2080ti performance at the price of a 3070, they will set themselves up for dominance in the GPU market for the next 2 years and they will probably long term co-erce a lot of people who wouldn't consider Nvidia GPU PC gaming into PC gaming due to their marketting stategy with LG OLEDs & Gsync. AMD users will probably switch too as its just too much of a good deal to not take up and now Nvidia are semi-open to fresync compatible displays, its one less pro in AMDs locker.

It would be almost a no brainer for LG OLED buyers to grab a 3070 and enjoy top of the line gaming with Gsync and all of Nvidia's recent software optimisations (Sharpening, reshade, DLSS, integer scaling).

The reasoning for my pessimism is Nvidia illustrated last generation that without AMD giving them a tiny kick up the backside, they're content with marginal upgrades and AMD are once again no where to be seen and will arrive with performance to compete at around 90% of the price tag about 6-12 months late as usual.

I do hope Nvidia see the bigger picture and price and release realistically.

The day Nvidia will get a kick up the ass is the day the Xbox one decided to just run windows and allows users to use steam for their games. Then we'll run into squeaky bum time for Nvidia.

TNA · 22 Jan 2020 at 16:29

aoaaron said:
I think thats just not going to happen.

A 3070 will probably be as powerful as a 2080S or a little more.
3080 will probably be a bit better than a 2080ti.
3080ti will probably be a lot better than a 2080ti.

Thats me being optimistic.
I hope they increase the VRAM this generation as I'm genuinely scared with the new consoles that the higher end cards might become VRAM gimped in more complex games as texture sizes are bound to increase. Releasing another set of 8GB VRAM cards at the 2080 price is going to be a bit of a joke.

I don't think you're wrong at all though. If Nvidia were to go all out and release 2080ti performance at the price of a 3070, they will set themselves up for dominance in the GPU market for the next 2 years and they will probably long term co-erce a lot of people who wouldn't consider Nvidia GPU PC gaming into PC gaming due to their marketting stategy with LG OLEDs & Gsync. AMD users will probably switch too as its just too much of a good deal to not take up and now Nvidia are semi-open to fresync compatible displays, its one less pro in AMDs locker.

It would be almost a no brainer for LG OLED buyers to grab a 3070 and enjoy top of the line gaming with Gsync and all of Nvidia's recent software optimisations (Sharpening, reshade, DLSS, integer scaling).

The reasoning for my pessimism is Nvidia illustrated last generation that without AMD giving them a tiny kick up the backside, they're content with marginal upgrades and AMD are once again no where to be seen and will arrive with performance to compete at around 90% of the price tag about 6-12 months late as usual.

I do hope Nvidia see the bigger picture and price and release realistically.

The day Nvidia will get a kick up the ass is the day the Xbox one decided to just run windows and allows users to use steam for their games. Then we'll run into squeaky bum time for Nvidia.

I would be surprised if that turned out to be true. Would be an utter failure if it was. They are not only brining a new architecture but also making a huge jump to 7nm+ so performance will be better than that imo.

stooeh · 22 Jan 2020 at 16:46

Even if there was huge gains on 7nm+ nothing stopping nvidia selling a smaller '3080' chip as a 3080Ti and charging those prices then releasing the full deal later

Didn't something similar happen with the 680 (or was it 780)?