Indestructible brake pads/disk

b00merang69 · 21 Jan 2020 at 21:19

The Carlton was Injected AFAIR but not 100% sure, 87 XR2 was Twin Choke carb and my 1990-91 (mk4 shape) XR3i EFI was Injected (previous years were mechanical Injection).

Diddums · 21 Jan 2020 at 21:29

Lol. 10k miles from our last set in the Mini. This is the price of London's stop start traffic and driving it like your pants are on fire.

andy_mk3 · 21 Jan 2020 at 21:30

MagicBoy said:
50/50 on the Carlton it was in reply to though.

Apologies

Haha!

Nasher · 21 Jan 2020 at 21:31

andy_mk3 said:
Probably applies to the majority of cars these days then

Amazing how many people you see on motorways etc, on their brakes every 10 seconds because they're 6ft behind the car in front, these people must get through brakes.

I hate those people. They have no chance if the car in front has to stop quickly.

andy_mk3 · 21 Jan 2020 at 21:34

Nasher said:
I hate those people. They have no chance if the car in front has to stop quickly.

I know, it's awful driving.

I travel a very busy section of the A1 daily and car after car is just bumper to bumper. No surprise there are very frequent accidents, there's no room for error at all.

Dis86 · 21 Jan 2020 at 22:27

Must drive like ms daisy

sovietspybob · 22 Jan 2020 at 08:40

andy_mk3 said:
As a mechanic it's scary how quick some people go through brakes. In 12 years I have never worn a set of pads out on a car, it's amazing what a bit of engine braking and reading the road ahead can do

My record is less than 200 miles on a set of pads, that was bedding them in, couple of trips to work then about 20 laps of the local track. They were completely down to the metal so in once sense i did get my moneys worth.

Flack88 · 22 Jan 2020 at 13:07

Some people can't use a gearbox and have no idea of using engine breaking. Pretty sure the majority of people think their car would blow up if they go near the redline.

MagicBoy · 22 Jan 2020 at 13:28

I prefer engine braking myself. Engine breaking quickly gets expensive to fix.

robj20 · 22 Jan 2020 at 13:43

I got 50k from my last set. New set squeal so they probably won't stay on very long.

jpaul · 22 Jan 2020 at 14:20

Engine breaking quickly gets expensive to fix.

Does it put much more force through the differential/gearbox than changing up ?
yes ok - if someone was following too close (increasingly they use active cruise though) and goes into the back of you, but I'd normally blip brakes too.

should probably use the brakes heavily, more frequently, (even ABS ?) so that there's no debris/oxidation if I did need to stop.

weathmatth · 22 Jan 2020 at 14:35

ver01@ said:
110k and still going (not even an advisory on MOT). What is going on (not complaining though )

That is pretty impressive. The last set of pads i swapped out had done about 25K, it would be a lot higher but outside of my normal commute i do have a heavy foot

Building Candy · 22 Jan 2020 at 14:53

You could be the worst driver in the world but if you spend all your time on the motorway your not going to wear the brakes out.

Orionaut · 22 Jan 2020 at 15:18

ver01@ said:
110k and still going (not even an advisory on MOT). What is going on (not complaining though )

Well, back in the good old days when we were still allowed to use optimal materials rather than compromise ones....

Asbestos based brake pads would last for ever and the disks would too!

dirtychinchilla · 22 Jan 2020 at 16:16

Remember that autos don't do engine braking like manuals do. That's why I end up pressing my brakes often.

AiiR · 22 Jan 2020 at 16:57

My F56 mini needed fronts and rears during my 3 year ownership from the factory. After some reading it seemed I wasn't alone on this however!

Rroff · 22 Jan 2020 at 17:01

dirtychinchilla said:
Remember that autos don't do engine braking like manuals do. That's why I end up pressing my brakes often.

Mine does in sport mode almost as well as a manual amazingly (I'm actually quite surprised how well it manages to do that - occasionally it does too much engine braking when I don't want it but most of the time it nails it) - it doesn't really do engine braking in normal driving mode but I have noticed a couple of times it has but it is very rare. (As the transmission and computer is based off the 370Z it probably should manage that well though hah).

Have to say it amazes me how many people make heavy use of brakes to transition between speed limits - aside from downhill sections I can usually taper off the speed not too far from the signs and drop to the new speed limit just before passing through without touching the brakes at all.

Nasher · 22 Jan 2020 at 18:50

Also if you want some indestructible tyres buy Michelin primacies (like the gt86 came with)

Comically low grip, but you'll have to throw them away from age before they wear down.

DXP55 · 22 Jan 2020 at 20:35

I am a brake pedal user but still use engine on a lot of occasions even though it's Powershift.

Years ago neighbour over the road had a Vauxhall VX490 and he came over and said his brakes had packed up - He used his gears to slow down for most of the time and just touching brakes to stop- He said I never abuse the brakes - So set to work on it and all four brake cylinders were leaking along with seized pads and shoes - I had to rebuild the whole lot. Since then I use my brakes as they are meant to be used and so far I have never had a seizure in any part of braking system.

One other reason I use brakes a lot is the wife slows down far too soon and just touches brake to stop. Need to clean discs up a bit

Best for wear tyres I ever had were Gislaved - hard as concrete and no way would they go round a corner if it was wet. Soon changed them.

adolf hamster · 22 Jan 2020 at 20:53

Also helps if your car has the aerodynamics of a brick