2700X, 3600 or i5-4670K for gaming?

[bobboberts]

So my PC has seemingly died so this is a good an excuse as any to consider a full upgrade.

I currently have an the 4670K but it's never seemingly been able to overclock (perhaps bad silicone or bad RAM? I've never really investigated). Would I actually see much difference in gaming by moving to AMD and if so, is there any value in the 2700X or should it just be the 3600 and then jump to an 8-core 4xxx series when games start to make use of the extra 2 cores?

I just got a 2070 Super but only game at 1080p (and that won't change for a bit - the jump to 1440p will have to wait for now) and my reference for considering an upgrade is that Assassins Creed Odyssey hits the CPU wall for me at around 40fps on either Very High or Ultra.

What's the general consensus here? If it is to upgrade, what mobo and RAM should I also be looking at?

Thanks!

 

[Lolik]

90% of responses will be : 3600 + msi b450 tomahawk max + crucial ballistix ram

 

[bobboberts]

So are the gains worth it then, £ for performance?

Edit: And that motherboard is forward compatible with the 4xxx series, correct? Am I right in thinking I need a fan for the CPU - if so, which is recommended? I guess quieter rather than overclocking ability is priority, as I would run at stock.

Double edit: And, whilst I'm asking, what RAM in particular?

 

[tamzzy]

3600 + msi b450 tomahawk max

this (or the mortar max if you need an matx board, or want to save a tenner)

crucial ballistix ram

nah. ram prices decreased but the crucial has remained static. not worth it anymore for most people
might as well get the patriot 3600 ram instead

 

[MaXxBoulton]

And that motherboard is forward compatible with the 4xxx series, correct?

AMD said the am4 socket will support next gen but they haven't listed any chipsets that will support next gen. People are making assumptions the B450 will support the new cpus

Everway the 3600 is the cpu to pick right now.

 

[heatonpkmassive]

90% of responses will be : 3600 + msi b450 tomahawk max + crucial ballistix ram

They would. But they'd be right, hard to see beyond that particular combo in this instance, the OP has their answer.

So you have the kudos of being right first

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

3600 now and move to a Zen 3 chip if they have a good drop in latency as rumoured, the 4000 chips should be noticeably better again in games.

 

[jigger]

X570 Aorus elite and 3600X with Crucial E-die.

I just helped a young chap out with this build plus an Aorus PCI-E 4 NVME and 5700XT. It’s a hell of a system.

 

[MaXxBoulton]

X570 Aorus elite

what spend this sort of money

3600X

to just run this...

it would run the same on a b450


EDIT: LOLz i had this mixed up with a different board, i £400 board.

 

[jigger]

what spend this sort of money


to just run this...

it would run the same on a b450

The pricing on those two is really good at the moment and the Aorus is a cracking board. Plus PCI-E 4 is worth the price of admission IMO.

 

[MaXxBoulton]

The pricing on those two is really good at the moment and the Aorus is a cracking board. Plus PCI-E 4 is worth the price of admission IMO.

yes your right, i edited my post just before your reply, i was thinking of the master i seen at £375

 

[HangTime]

2700x vs 3600 is a real dillemna I've been struggling with. 3600 is the better gaming chip right now but 2700x slightly better at other tasks and potentially might close the gap in future if games get optimised for more cores.

I bought a 2700x earlier today but already kinda regretting it versus going 3600 then drop in a 8 core 4000 series at a later date (if my mobo supports it). Keep telling myself the better cooler and free game (Borderlands 3, which I want) makes it an OK choice...

 

[EsaT]

Assassins Creed Odyssey hits the CPU wall for me at around 40fps on either Very High or Ultra.

That's one of the better games for scaling with core count:
https://youtu.be/vVjdhXAdKE0?t=1m49s
But Zen2 architecture has notable improvements for gaming over Zen+, so comparison between 6 core Zen2 and 8 core Zen+ isn't that clear.

 

[bobboberts]

2700x vs 3600 is a real dillemna I've been struggling with. 3600 is the better gaming chip right now but 2700x slightly better at other tasks and potentially might close the gap in future if games get optimised for more cores.

I bought a 2700x earlier today but already kinda regretting it versus going 3600 then drop in a 8 core 4000 series at a later date (if my mobo supports it). Keep telling myself the better cooler and free game (Borderlands 3, which I want) makes it an OK choice...

If the 2700X was much cheaper, I think it would've made more sense as a short term measure, but I've opted for the 3600 on the MSI board and Crucial RAM. I'm looking forward to giving my Super a bit more CPU grunt to play with!

 

[Raviolay]

I feel vindicated now when I got my crosshair hero 6 and 1700 as part of a deal way back. After the usual 4 cores is all you need crap that was posted. Currently my motherboard supports with a bios update all the new CPUs. And I have my fingers crossed that whatever new CPU's come out this year. The final year of AM4 will be supported also I can hold out until 2021 comes around. And hopefully get a discounted 4000 CPU.

 

[greatash]

3600, then drop in a 3900x/4700x or whatever in 3-4 years for cheap when needed.

 

[Drumroll]

90% of responses will be : 3600 + msi b450 tomahawk max + crucial ballistix ram

This.
3600 better IPC, despite less cores than 2700x, which will be only better if using application that benefit from more cores.
Motherboard for your current CPU is pointless.

 

[alec]

This.
3600 better IPC, despite less cores than 2700x, which will be only better if using application that benefit from more cores.
Motherboard for your current CPU is pointless.

And even in multicore productivity applications 3600 is no worse than 2700X, IPC makes up for 2 missing cores.

 

[tamzzy]

And even in multicore productivity applications 3600 is no worse than 2700X, IPC makes up for 2 missing cores.

nearly, but not quite
but in most cases where progs do not scale 100% with core count, the superior single threaded performance of the 3600 usually means the 3600 > 2700x

 

[Jacky60]

3600 now then 4000 series 8 core when it launches.