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If the 3080ti is 50-75% than the 2080ti in rasterisation, i'll do a John Macafee.
if a little die shrink and new architecture can net 25-30% I would exspect 50%+ from big Die shrink and a new architecture
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If the 3080ti is 50-75% than the 2080ti in rasterisation, i'll do a John Macafee.
If the 3080ti is 50-75% than the 2080ti in rasterisation, i'll do a John Macafee.
I agree, same situation I need a card twice as fast as 1080ti minimum and costing £6-700 max or 150% faster at £1000There are a lot of extreme opinions flying around here just now. I don't care who it is, I just want something worth upgrading from a 1080Ti to at a decent cost.
I agree, same situation I need a card twice as fast as 1080ti minimum and costing £6-700 max or 150% faster at £1000
Its all I can do to tell AMD and Nvidia what I want and will pay for. It's their call but otherwise I'll sit on my hands for 18 months. 1080ti SLI for £1450 30 months ago crushes every other offer. 12 months from now we'll have sunlit GPU uplands, meanwhile all three companies will try and take the P.Double might be pushing it, especially at that price. that would require something ~50% faster than a 2080Ti but 40% cheaper. I am pretty sure that's not happening though I would love to be proven wrong.
Double might be pushing it, especially at that price. that would require something ~50% faster than a 2080Ti but 40% cheaper. I am pretty sure that's not happening though I would love to be proven wrong.
my prediction this time round is big navi 10-15% slower than 3080Ti but also at Lower price point making it more desirable at a price/performance ratio. I think by September both companies will have their cards out going by rumours on Internet. AMD might be first out the block with nvidia to follow.
Hopefully this will be again an all AMD build for me, have put of buying GFX card waiting for AMD to pull their pants up. Let's hope they don't goof this up.
AMD had better price it to compete, the market needs 2080ti power at £500my prediction this time round is big navi 10-15% slower than 3080Ti but also at Lower price point making it more desirable at a price/performance ratio. I think by September both companies will have their cards out going by rumours on Internet. AMD might be first out the block with nvidia to follow.
Hopefully this will be again an all AMD build for me, have put of buying GFX card waiting for AMD to pull their pants up. Let's hope they don't goof this up.
I'm not sure that's actually possible with Lisa Su's 45% markup requirement.AMD had better price it to compete, the market needs 2080ti power at £500
+1AMD had better price it to compete, the market needs 2080ti power at £500
AMD had better price it to compete, the market needs 2080ti power at £500
Pricing the same for similar performance two years later isn't going to create much of a stir. I'll stick with Nvidia if AMD aren't prepared to compete properly.AMD are now pricing the same.
If you ask the AMD fans here, most of them don't want disruption, most of them want AMD to turn into nVidia. They keep saying they want AMD to make as much money as possible.Pricing the same for similar performance two years later isn't going to create much of a stir. I'll stick with Nvidia if AMD aren't prepared to compete properly.
The 9700Pro was disruptive, the Fury X wasn't. Same price for a slightly worse product isn't going to light my fire.
I literally have not seen anybody say that. The "AMD fans" are saying they want 80 CU cards to crush the RTX Titan for £500, and then complain when it doesn't happen. Sensible people, however, acknowledge that in order for AMD to compete consistently, they have to make a war chest, and that only comes from increasing prices, which is a necessary evil however much we don't want it.If you ask the AMD fans here, most of them don't want disruption, most of them want AMD to turn into nVidia. They keep saying they want AMD to make as much money as possible.
No, making **** up is a weird mindset.It's a weird mindset.
I literally have not seen anybody say that. The "AMD fans" are saying they want 80 CU cards to crush the RTX Titan for £500, and then complain when it doesn't happen. Sensible people, however, acknowledge that in order for AMD to compete consistently, they have to make a war chest, and that only comes from increasing prices, which is a necessary evil however much we don't want it.
Selective reading on your part, then.I literally have not seen anybody say that. The "AMD fans" are saying they want 80 CU cards to crush the RTX Titan for £500, and then complain when it doesn't happen. Sensible people, however, acknowledge that in order for AMD to compete consistently, they have to make a war chest, and that only comes from increasing prices, which is a necessary evil however much we don't want it.
No, making **** up is a weird mindset.
So then, as somebody not an "AMD fan", you say AMD shouldn't build a war chest? Then don't ******* complain when the next series of Radeon GPUs are rubbish and Nvidia continue to bend the market over with incremental dross.In fact you've pretty much proved my point with your own post, saying that "AMD need to increase prices and build a war chest."