Every apple repair shop is trying to charge me £300 for a $18 fix

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You say that though right but if you think about how long it has lasted, nine [9] years is a long time for a bit of tech to last.
I’ve had other laptops last as long that we’re half the price and they’re not banned from software updates either. I’m amazed any company is allowed to get away with it.

Sonos is another example, people who bought their kit invested a lot of money, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have bought them if they thought they’d be made defunct after a relatively short space of time.
 
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Hard to find good businesses that do component level repair unfortunately, most will just say replace the board.

Short of very specialist repair shops, you’re not going to find £50K worth of PCB repair equipment just lying around.

Component level repair just isn’t financially viable these days, due to the cost of training and Surface Mount rework stations.
 
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Short of very specialist repair shops, you’re not going to find £50K worth of PCB repair equipment just lying around.

Component level repair just isn’t financially viable these days, due to the cost of training and Surface Mount rework stations.
I think it’s more the training than anything, it’s surprising what you can do with relatively basic equipment.
 
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I’ve had other laptops last as long that we’re half the price and they’re not banned from software updates either. I’m amazed any company is allowed to get away with it.
When Vista was released, it got slated. Why did it get slated? It was because people tried to install it on hardware that simply wasn't up to the job. The last time I bought PC hardware components was to build a PC specifically for Vista and I specced it accordingly. It worked absolutely perfectly and didn't have a single problem. If Microsoft had been sensible and not allowed Vista to run on lower specification hardware, there would have been far fewer problems.

That's effectively what Apple have done. The last two versions of the OS wouldn't run properly on older Macs due to incompatibilities with the graphics hardware so they've made it so that it won't install on those machines. There are hacks to get around this but they'll leave you with a computer that doesn't work as well as it should. Personally, I think that's a sensible solution.

But back to the original subject of this thread, although I'm competent with a soldering iron, I don't have a rework station and this isn't the sort of job I'd be confident to do. As has been said, finding someone to do board level repairs is what you need and I'm glad you've found that. It's no different to any other computer hardware failing and needing a part changing.

It's just an updated version of the repairs I used to do in the field. I spent two days once at a site swapping out 1488s and 1489s in Wyse terminals following a nearby thunderstorm. I had to remove the failed bugs and fit new ones. Naturally I fitted sockets for the new ones in case it ever happened again.
 
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When Vista was released, it got slated. Why did it get slated? It was because people tried to install it on hardware that simply wasn't up to the job. The last time I bought PC hardware components was to build a PC specifically for Vista and I specced it accordingly. It worked absolutely perfectly and didn't have a single problem. If Microsoft had been sensible and not allowed Vista to run on lower specification hardware, there would have been far fewer problems.

That's effectively what Apple have done. The last two versions of the OS wouldn't run properly on older Macs due to incompatibilities with the graphics hardware so they've made it so that it won't install on those machines. There are hacks to get around this but they'll leave you with a computer that doesn't work as well as it should. Personally, I think that's a sensible solution.

But back to the original subject of this thread, although I'm competent with a soldering iron, I don't have a rework station and this isn't the sort of job I'd be confident to do. As has been said, finding someone to do board level repairs is what you need and I'm glad you've found that. It's no different to any other computer hardware failing and needing a part changing.

It's just an updated version of the repairs I used to do in the field. I spent two days once at a site swapping out 1488s and 1489s in Wyse terminals following a nearby thunderstorm. I had to remove the failed bugs and fit new ones. Naturally I fitted sockets for the new ones in case it ever happened again.

I get the blocking of OS updates to be fair, my gripe is that I can’t install a legacy copy of Pages etc. If I already had it on my system It’d be fine but now I’m left without it.

I also have a copy of Logic which cost a fair whack and that can no longer be installed. My wife now uses the MacBook as it’s useless to me.
 
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