Greta Thunberg

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Most adults just don't like seeing children exploited for political purposes, if they have an argument give us the science (excluding artificial computer models) rather than acted out speeches about how we'll all die if we don't act immediately (ie. hand over more national powers to international socialism). Nearly every scaremongering prediction the ice age/global warming/climate emergency movement has ever made has never come to pass hence their need to continually rebrand it. It's just the same sort of project fear rubbish we've seen with Brexit, only the bed wetters (and children who don't know any better) fall for it over and over again.

This for me. I frankly worry for her. I don't think this is all going to end well for her in the long run, I worry about how she is going to handle her life as it goes on (and worry even more how she will cope if this all blows over eventually and leaves a void in her life).

On the question of "the science", I've not seen enough of it yet. The planet is billions of years old, our records are a grain of sand on a beach of history. For me , its far too early in planetary terms for any claims of apocalypse. Not that I particularly think avoiding human extinction is the priority anyway, many of the protestors I see are talking about how its the threat of their extinction that they are concerned about, not the planet itself but them. Doesn't really matter a toss if humanity is wiped out, another species will simply rise and take up the mantle of dominant species, as it has done time and time again in the past millions of years.
 
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. . . I frankly worry for her. . . .
Is that based on your "Id"? ;)
I suspect that she worries for herself - and for the planet and everything living on it, now and in the future.

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On the question of "the science", I've not seen enough of it yet. The planet is billions of years old, our records are a grain of sand on a beach of history. For me , its far too early in planetary terms for any claims of apocalypse. Not that I particularly think avoiding human extinction is the priority anyway, many of the protestors I see are talking about how its the threat of their extinction that they are concerned about, not the planet itself but them. Doesn't really matter a toss if humanity is wiped out, another species will simply rise and take up the mantle of dominant species, as it has done time and time again in the past millions of years.
The planet may be billions of years old (despite what the Bible is alleged to assert) but an awful lot has changed since the Industrial Revolution.

I think that I can understand and sympathise with someone who cares for the future of humanity rather than just saying "Sod it, I aim to enjoy myself to the max because I really couldn't care less who inherits the Earth when I am gone."
 
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I wonder what Greta is like at home with her parents, or does she live in her own penthouse?

Will she be the rule of the roost sat with her earl grey reading some book due to her "intellectual prowess", or will she be without her scripting playing with her barbie house?
 
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I wonder what Greta is like at home . . .
If you are really interested (which I doubt) , you could always start satisfying your curiosity with Wikipedia and I believe that her Mother has written a book called "Scenes from the Heart"?

It may not matter particularly to you, but despite her current fame and her determination to highlight the dangers of climate change, Greta Thunberg may have some psychological problems - still, that is no reason not to stand at the back of the room and make fun of some harmless person you have never met and about whom you admit to knowing absolutely nothing, is it?
 
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I think that I can understand and sympathise with someone who cares for the future of humanity rather than just saying "Sod it, I aim to enjoy myself to the max because I really couldn't care less who inherits the Earth when I am gone."

I can sort of understand that, its just that (speaking purely for myself) I really dont care for the future of humanity, not because I am enjoying myself to the max (I sadly am not :D ) but because we are just one animal species, with no more right to exist on the planet than any other so I dont much care what happens to us on the planet. The planet will go on with or without us, another genus will step up (probably insects in my opinion , as reptiles have already had a crack at it and failed :D ) and the globe (its not flat :D ) will go on, at least until the sun explodes or there is a REALLY big asteroid hit.
 
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If you are really interested (which I doubt) , you could always start satisfying your curiosity with Wikipedia and I believe that her Mother has written a book called "Scenes from the Heart"?

It may not matter particularly to you, but despite her current fame and her determination to highlight the dangers of climate change, Greta Thunberg may have some psychological problems - still, that is no reason not to stand at the back of the room and make fun of some harmless person you have never met and about whom you admit to knowing absolutely nothing, is it?

Who's making fun of her?

It's clear she's purely used as a megaphone, she's been used, this is my opinion and I am entitled to my opinion.
 
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Yes, a book deal, a film of her life, T-Shirts, Mugs and a Key ring. She'll never work a day in her life.

Which her parents started filming with professional crew since she was a baby mind you.......
What a coincidence some might think... hmmm...

Has she come up with any original thinking or ideas of her own yet?

What question is this? Her come with ideas and solution? Who are you to expect such thing. She is just the usual pampered scaremonger of the various NGOs who are funding her. She has no solutions just crying "we are doomed", while her father makes money installing more wind farms.

Do you want a logical teenager with ideas? Naomi Seibt or the other Dutch young guy (for half hour trying to find his name but cannot) have logical argument how to move forward without go automatically to the dark ages.

Also lets not forget. The new nukes Britain ordered from USA to replace the Trident last few weeks. Their production would emit as much CO2 as UK would do the next several year. Let alone all nuclear waste and harmful to the whole environment radioactive particles.

And lets not forget something is not included in the CO2 projections. (hence they go pear shape every year)
US military alone is the 55th biggest CO2 emitter. Even Sweden is behind it. Let alone most sub Saharan countries combined.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...than-many-industrialized-nations-infographic/

http://theconversation.com/us-milit...s-shrinking-this-war-machine-is-a-must-119269
 
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Who's making fun of her?

It's clear she's purely used as a megaphone, she's been used, this is my opinion and I am entitled to my opinion.
Indeed you are, even if your assertion that she is "purely used as a megaphone" is unsupported and is founded on irrational prejudice and perhaps even a touch of envy.

Oh, if only the few people asserting that climate change is not a serious issue had a few interested parties to help them act as "megaphones"; perhaps some generous person from the energy sector could step forward :(
 
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Why does she need to? Govts enforce policy not this girl, she is raising awareness and doing it very well.

Anyone can shout and moan, "i'm after solutions to the problem not complaints".

If she had some credible answers of her own then more people would respect and listen to her, she has alienated a massive portion of the planet by the way she goes about things.
 
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