Windows 10

Deleted member 77746 · 1 Mar 2020 at 17:02

^^ Just watched that now. I bet all motherboard manufactures change the bios so they can't go past 2099 to stop this happening.

Rroff · 2 Mar 2020 at 07:19

They've started to roll out 10 at work (after twice aborting attempts previously as it caused too many issues to put it into a production environment) - rather interesting setup - I don't know all the details but they've gone out of house for a company that has heavily customised builds, even a lot of the icons, etc. are completely different to anything I've seen before - looks more like server 2012 than 10, supposedly the image is completely locked down with regards to updates - I hope they aren't under-estimating how much MS have their grips in and/or licensing terms - though whoever produced it seems to know what they are doing.

Deleted member 77746 · 2 Mar 2020 at 09:49

Rroff said:
They've started to roll out 10 at work (after twice aborting attempts previously as it caused too many issues to put it into a production environment) - rather interesting setup - I don't know all the details but they've gone out of house for a company that has heavily customised builds, even a lot of the icons, etc. are completely different to anything I've seen before - looks more like server 2012 than 10, supposedly the image is completely locked down with regards to updates - I hope they aren't under-estimating how much MS have their grips in and/or licensing terms - though whoever produced it seems to know what they are doing.

only just? Windows 10 has been out since July 2015, that’s 5 years.

How many workstations are you talking about here?

Rroff · 2 Mar 2020 at 09:55

mrbell1984 said:
only just? Windows 10 has been out since July 2015, that’s 5 years.

How many workstations are you talking about here?

Company wide over all devices it is being rolled out to just over 5000 installations I believe. They tried twice before but it wasn't even funny how badly broken/poorly suited Windows 10 was in this environment.

Deleted member 77746 · 2 Mar 2020 at 10:00

Rroff said:
Company wide over all devices it is being rolled out to just over 5000 installations I believe. They tried twice before but it wasn't even funny how badly broken/poorly suited Windows 10 was in this environment.

That’s a lot of workstations. I understand now why it’s taken so long to roll it out.

Isn’t it amazing that how long Windows can be taken to roll out into production because of how bad the systems are.

I think it’s got worse over time and it’s taken longer for businesses to adopt.

That’s going to cost a fortune for Microsoft licensing.

Rroff · 2 Mar 2020 at 10:49

mrbell1984 said:
That’s a lot of workstations. I understand now why it’s taken so long to roll it out.

Isn’t it amazing that how long Windows can be taken to roll out into production because of how bad the systems are.

I think it’s got worse over time and it’s taken longer for businesses to adopt.

That’s going to cost a fortune for Microsoft licensing.

Several issues, albeit mostly ironed out now, were never an issue with past upgrades to 7, etc. IIRC the first time they aborted was due to Windows 10 throwing up modal dialogs for certain things like notifications inappropriately which is unacceptable on public facing and/or systems where a user is interactively controlling peripherals, etc.

I don't get the defence of 10 in wider usage beyond simple desktop tasks so many features have been implemented with a lack of vision and an unwillingness to changed them to improve the end user quality of life experience with a lot of dragging of feet and horrid special casing like the updates options now where rather than just hold their hands up and do the right thing we've got a mismatch of a dozen clunky ways to manage updates which is a total mess implementation wise and still less than ideal despite finally having the ability to differ them longer term (which is kind of missing the point anyhow as not all or even a majority complaining about automatic updates just want to disable them/put them off as long as possible but want better control on their own terms).

Deleted member 77746 · 2 Mar 2020 at 11:37

Rroff said:
Several issues, albeit mostly ironed out now, were never an issue with past upgrades to 7, etc. IIRC the first time they aborted was due to Windows 10 throwing up modal dialogs for certain things like notifications inappropriately which is unacceptable on public facing and/or systems where a user is interactively controlling peripherals, etc.

I don't get the defence of 10 in wider usage beyond simple desktop tasks so many features have been implemented with a lack of vision and an unwillingness to changed them to improve the end user quality of life experience with a lot of dragging of feet and horrid special casing like the updates options now where rather than just hold their hands up and do the right thing we've got a mismatch of a dozen clunky ways to manage updates which is a total mess implementation wise and still less than ideal despite finally having the ability to differ them longer term (which is kind of missing the point anyhow as not all or even a majority complaining about automatic updates just want to disable them/put them off as long as possible but want better control on their own terms).

If companies used all their apps in the web they could save a fortune and would be far more stable using something like Ubuntu desktop. Very easy to integrate it into AD/Samba AD. Even more easier to image systems and get universal hardware working.

For me it would be how much a company would save in licence costs alone. Might need to spend a bit on training though but that could be done in house.

I’m getting tired of Microsoft now in their enterprise sectors. (Except 365)

Rroff · 2 Mar 2020 at 17:31

mrbell1984 said:
If companies used all their apps in the web they could save a fortune and would be far more stable using something like Ubuntu desktop. Very easy to integrate it into AD/Samba AD. Even more easier to image systems and get universal hardware working.

For me it would be how much a company would save in licence costs alone. Might need to spend a bit on training though but that could be done in house.

I’m getting tired of Microsoft now in their enterprise sectors. (Except 365)

We've moved a ton of stuff to 365 and/or cross-platform software so not sure why they went with 10 though there is still some bespoke legacy software that only runs on Windows but nothing so complex IMO it couldn't be easily either recompiled for *nix or rewritten.

EDIT: Though to be fair with a large company there is a whole process that has to be gone through when rolling out software to make sure procedures (i.e. compliance testing) and standards are adhered to, etc. - even if more often than not the quality of the software leaves a lot to be desired

Safetytrousers · 2 Mar 2020 at 17:37

''Dear Colleague,
Following the pilot phase of the project we are now ready to start issuing Windows 10 laptops to staff...''

I'm booked in for the swap on 16th March.

We've been on W7 Pro.

Rroff · 2 Mar 2020 at 18:31

Have to say in general I'm getting more and more fed up with MS - using one of the latest versions of Visual Studio - got a bunch of red marks over half my code because I adjusted something in the main header file around 5 minutes ago and intellisense still hasn't caught up - never used to happen in VS 2013 - regularly get lots of slowdowns while stuff works away in the background, times when the IDE thinks it knows better than you after a change you've made and you have to let it play out until it has got over itself and numerous times when it seems to forget or screw up project settings, etc. like earlier I'd saved and closed the project in debug configuration and it reloaded in release and I didn't notice immediately which caused some confusion.

EDIT: Took it 12 minutes to catch up with the fact I added a ; to the end of a line in the header file...

LoadsaMoney · 10 Mar 2020 at 17:38

https://wccftech.com/kb4540673-windows-10-cumulative-update-out/

Deleted member 77746 · 10 Mar 2020 at 17:48

New Update....

LoadsaMoney · 10 Mar 2020 at 18:47

mrbell1984 said:
New Update....

Same here, and installed fine too

On Build 18363.719 now.

Deleted member 77746 · 10 Mar 2020 at 18:53

LoadsaMoney said:
On Build 18363.719 now.

Ditto

Digital X · 11 Mar 2020 at 00:53

Why do some things i download go into the "temp" folder? In Firefox I have it set to "Downloads". I have downloaded several .rar files as mods for ETS2 and they go into the download folder. But a .PNG I downloaded goes into temp?

LoadsaMoney · 11 Mar 2020 at 11:12

Microsoft Inadvertently Leaks Details of a New SMB Wormable Bug – Time to Block Ports & Disable SMBv3 Compression

https://wccftech.com/microsoft-leaks-info-new-smbv3-wormable-bug-cve-2020-0796/

Oh dear :/

Lokwyr · 11 Mar 2020 at 23:00

LoadsaMoney said:
https://wccftech.com/microsoft-leaks-info-new-smbv3-wormable-bug-cve-2020-0796/

Either I'm getting good at this techspeak or something alien is in my brain. That is possibly the first M/soft blurb of which I may have a miniscule modicum of understanding. I've no idea if it affects me, so I'll just let Win10 play with itself as normal. Never had any problems with Win10 updates.

Rroff · 11 Mar 2020 at 23:10

LoadsaMoney said:
Oh dear :/

Meanwhile over in the CPU forum they are kicking each other in the shins over vulnerabilities that are a fraction as concerning...

Please excuse me while I step outside and have a good laugh at those touting security and Windows 10 earlier in the thread.

Deleted member 77746 · 11 Mar 2020 at 23:29

Anyone remember msblaster? RPC 135 fun n games eh.

V F · 12 Mar 2020 at 00:28

mrbell1984 said:
Anyone remember msblaster? RPC 135 fun n games eh.

Yeah, soon as you connected. Boom.