Why don't GPU manufactures send out fan replacements?

heatonpkmassive · 1 Apr 2020 at 13:56

@Neil79 did you get sorted fella?

Neil79 · 1 Apr 2020 at 15:44

heatonpkmassive said:
@Neil79 did you get sorted fella?

A bit buzzy at 95% - 100% but other than that, I'm very happy with it! Lets hope this one lasts

Going to upgrade to a liquid cooling solution down the line

pingu666 · 1 Apr 2020 at 16:44

MikeMaMan said:
I've done this on my old R9 290. Used two Arctic F12 PWM PST fans. 53CFM, 600-1350 RPM. So my temperature with old fans were on the limit (94 C), and with new fans it did not change. Throttling kicked in and as a result clock dropped from 997 to around 600-700. I lost half of performance in the test. from 4400 to 2600. Old fans were spigging at 2900 rpm, new ones are on the max of 1400 rpm. Do i need different fans?

repaste the gpu to heatsink paste, thats almost certainly your issue. my dads r390 i repasted and stuck those same artic cooling fans on, and dropped like 20c easily (and not pushing max rpm either.

if you have a backplate and a thermal pad, you can put one on the rear of the card to get heat transfer from the gpu to backplate too

pingu666 · 1 Apr 2020 at 16:47

just noticed you went around the card with the zip tie? thats another possible issue, i ziptied just to the heatsink and heatpipes, you might be affected your gpu to heatsink contact or something...

heatonpkmassive · 1 Apr 2020 at 17:20

Neil79 said:
A bit buzzy at 95% - 100% but other than that, I'm very happy with it! Lets hope this one lasts

Going to upgrade to a liquid cooling solution down the line

I'm sure it will, glad to see you're up and running

MikeMaMan · 1 Apr 2020 at 20:20

Morfinel said:
Something is not righ unless arctic fans are bad, even at low rpm two 12cm fan should cool it better than 95mm , I would try Akasa Piranha, they run 1900 rpm and have very good Static air preassure to push the air through fins.

P. S if you are still using r9 290 on hot temps, thermal paste might need replacing.

Is this what you meant?
Akasa Piranha AK-FN072

pingu666 said:
just noticed you went around the card with the zip tie? thats another possible issue, i ziptied just to the heatsink and heatpipes, you might be affected your gpu to heatsink contact or something...

Don't think so mate. These are reusable cable ties. I did not do them too tigh

pingu666 said:
repaste the gpu to heatsink paste, thats almost certainly your issue. my dads r390 i repasted and stuck those same artic cooling fans on, and dropped like 20c easily (and not pushing max rpm either.

if you have a backplate and a thermal pad, you can put one on the rear of the card to get heat transfer from the gpu to backplate too

I got the paste now, but i don't have pads. Will it be ok to use paste on memory chips as well? Or the gap is too big and paste will be runny under load?

MikeMaMan · 1 Apr 2020 at 20:20

I've added all replies to single post, this one can be deleted. I can't see a button to do it.

MikeMaMan · 1 Apr 2020 at 20:23

Morfinel · 1 Apr 2020 at 21:40

Yes this ia the one, OCUK have them for 5.99 but can't add to basket, paste is not good, need to be pads

MikeMaMan · 1 Apr 2020 at 22:32

I found my old fans from H80 water block, but they got 3 pins. Are you guys aware of any method using them on GPU with PWM fan control? I guess i cant wire it up GND, + and Sense, but i don't want them to run on 100%. Is there any software to read GPU temp and adjust the Voltage on 3pin fan connected to the chassis socket on mobo?

Morfinel said:
Yes this ia the one, OCUK have them for 5.99 but can't add to basket, paste is not good, need to be pads

Its not the one i've seen. FN072 is 120mm, and this one is 80mm. On top of that CFM is way too low to cool down GPU.

PC777 · 1 Apr 2020 at 22:40

MikeMaMan said:
. Is there any software to read GPU temp and adjust the Voltage on 3pin fan connected to the chassis socket on mobo?

Argus System Monitor software can do that, you can set any case fans including 3-pin DC ones to go off GPU temp instead of CPU or even both combined, or average temps, etc, loads of options to choose from.

There's a full free month trial so you could test it out without paying anything to make sure it works for you.

MikeMaMan · 2 Apr 2020 at 02:47

Morfinel said:
Yes this ia the one, OCUK have them for 5.99 but can't add to basket, paste is not good, need to be pads

PC777 said:
Argus System Monitor software can do that, you can set any case fans including 3-pin DC ones to go off GPU temp instead of CPU or even both combined, or average temps, etc, loads of options to choose from.

There's a full free month trial so you could test it out without paying anything to make sure it works for you.

Thanks for advice. But i found free option. Give guy a credit if you going to use it

Saves a licence fees on Argus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=492&v=LyIaxuppBAI&feature=emb_logo
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1099996-openfancontrol-my-take-on-a-speedfan-replacement/
I just tested it, and it works lovely. I guess i just need to figure out how to run GPU without fan connected to it. Or have a spare fun connected to the GPU but sitting on the side just to keep GPU sensors happy.

Updste:
Changed the fans for old corsair cf12s25sh12a from my water block. A bit loud and speed adjustment a bit weird. Temp dropped about 5 C, performance increased, but still not the levels of damaged original fan. Will try to re-paste tomorrow. I don't have thermal pads yet, so will use old ones. Is there any difference in them? I went for them ones > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100MM-x-...=254210437863b2ebc9e99fb44a3a8d7ffaac2fc379ea

TonTom · 2 Apr 2020 at 08:13

I’ve an old card with one of the fans just dead. I did think about the cable tie idea with some decent fans. Decided against it when I saw the cost of noctua’s being more than the actual cards worth.

pingu666 · 2 Apr 2020 at 09:32

If you have the original thermal pads for the ram and stuff it should be fine to re use them, I think its the gpu paste that can age and decline in performance.

MikeMaMan · 2 Apr 2020 at 11:08

TonTom said:
I’ve an old card with one of the fans just dead. I did think about the cable tie idea with some decent fans. Decided against it when I saw the cost of noctua’s being more than the actual cards worth.

Thats why i bought Arctic, they were cheap, around 3-4 pounds on Amazon. Nice and quite fan, but not good for my purposes. So a couple of old fans do the job better albeit being noisier.

I've seen them new Graphite pads. Apparently reusable and don't dry out. So potentially eternal. And only about 1 degree C worst off diamond something liquid metal thingy. Might be good for CPU-GPU if you don't take it apart too often. Also not as messy as paste.

TonTom · 2 Apr 2020 at 18:34

At the moment I just have a fan on the bottom of the case just blowing up. Going against the other fan and probably not doing anything but the cards probably not worth much any more due to age.

MikeMaMan · 3 Apr 2020 at 03:35

Ok, i changed the paste on GPU and as some one said it did give me around 18C lower temperatures. And i managed to up the frequencies a little bit from 977/1250 to 1060/1350. Its not maximum, just some thing i've seen people get and set it up. Superposition benchmark 1080p high results were 4488 or original cooler, then dropped to around 2300-2600 on new Arctic fans (low rpm only 1400). DC fans with 2500 rpm gave me around 3600 score. After i refreshed the paste i get 5193. And OC to 1060 gave me 5531. Memory OC from 1250 to 1350 gave me only 3 frames. So kind of weird test. Idling at 42C now. Not bad from 60C

GAC · 4 Apr 2020 at 11:05

MikeMaMan said:
Ok, i changed the paste on GPU and as some one said it did give me around 18C lower temperatures. And i managed to up the frequencies a little bit from 977/1250 to 1060/1350. Its not maximum, just some thing i've seen people get and set it up. Superposition benchmark 1080p high results were 4488 or original cooler, then dropped to around 2300-2600 on new Arctic fans (low rpm only 1400). DC fans with 2500 rpm gave me around 3600 score. After i refreshed the paste i get 5193. And OC to 1060 gave me 5531. Memory OC from 1250 to 1350 gave me only 3 frames. So kind of weird test. Idling at 42C now. Not bad from 60C . Could not flash it to 290X as it seems to be locked.

New DC fans are powered from Cha sockets.
GPU fan in next to the power supply. So i don't get any errors about missing fan.
The paste i used is Dow corning 340.
Anyway. Thanks every one for the input!

Mike out! Stay safe!

nice to hear mike. sounds like the paste was a big issue, always surprises me how people forget about it on gpu's i have a gtx670 in my old rig which il be converting to a file server later this year and i already know il have to strip it right down just to be safe even though it will never probably game again, thats if i just dont replace it with a 1050/1060 or something else i can run silent.

MikeMaMan · 9 Apr 2020 at 03:10

GAC said:
nice to hear mike. sounds like the paste was a big issue, always surprises me how people forget about it on gpu's i have a gtx670 in my old rig which il be converting to a file server later this year and i already know il have to strip it right down just to be safe even though it will never probably game again, thats if i just dont replace it with a 1050/1060 or something else i can run silent.

Thx mate!
I have an old rig as well, and wanted it to be a linux training machine for me. But go not time for it. As for the file server it might be too power hungry. I got Q6600 and AMD 5570 which i wanted to flash to 5770

but never got to it. Anyway, seems like over the top for the file server. Might be better to buy something nice and quite.!

GAC · 9 Apr 2020 at 09:38

MikeMaMan said:
Thx mate!
I have an old rig as well, and wanted it to be a linux training machine for me. But go not time for it. As for the file server it might be too power hungry. I got Q6600 and AMD 5570 which i wanted to flash to 5770 but never got to it. Anyway, seems like over the top for the file server. Might be better to buy something nice and quite.!

yeah im mulling over converting this old box which is a first gen i5-750 with the gtx670 or picking up a 4400g ryzen when they show up for a super low power media box come file server i could stash downstairs next to the tv. ORRRRRR get a 4000 series cpu and swap out my ryzen 1700 for a bit of overkill