Which is likely to be more economical?

the_worrier · 2 Apr 2020 at 20:20

Gonna be travelling backwards and forwards between Bromsgrove and Plymouth weekly. 185 miles each way all on M5 & A38 (dual carriageway).

I have a choice of 2L diesel AWD Kia Sportage or 1.2L petrol Hyundai i10. Both are manual.

Weighing up big(ish), heavier Sportage vs small, light i10 with small engine. Thoughts?

Not looking for smart comments or criticism from members just advice.

[TW]Fox · 2 Apr 2020 at 20:23

Take the Kia. It isn't going to drink like a fish and your emotional well-being doing such a trip on a regular basis in a half decent car will be far far better than doing it in something really horrible and uncomfortable like that i10.

Don't even do the maths, just use the Kia.

I did this journey (pretty much) a lot and having a nice car to do it in made all the difference.

UnworthyBean · 2 Apr 2020 at 20:35

[TW]Fox said:
Don't even do the maths, just use the Kia.

I'd probably just say this. The i10 is arguably going to be more economical but I'd hate to do 300+ miles in it.

Why are you limited to those two specific cars?

the_worrier · 2 Apr 2020 at 21:07

UnworthyBean said:
I'd probably just say this. The i10 is arguably going to be more economical but I'd hate to do 300+ miles in it.

Why are you limited to those two specific cars?

Because they are mine and the wifes!

Scrutinize · 2 Apr 2020 at 21:18

When you say weekly, you mean a once per week journey or multiple?

Either way, sportage.

Most small engine city cars don't do well at 70+ due to gearing so you easily lose the fuel economy benefits of town, extra urban cycles.

Nasher · 2 Apr 2020 at 23:09

A big heavy SUV isn't going to be economical, even a diesel one. It will cost a lot more in maintenance to.

ezekial · 2 Apr 2020 at 23:14

I'd just use the Kia anyway

coupe69 · 2 Apr 2020 at 23:43

More economical looks like it'd be the i10 judging by Honest Johns figures.

Kia 2.0 CRDi 4WD Official 46.3–49.6 mpg Real world 36.8 mpg

Hyundai i10 1.2 Official 57.6 mpg Real world 47.8 mpg

However, trundling along at 70mph I reckon there wouldn't be much in it. Either way I'd certainly be taking the Kia over the i10.

mjt · 3 Apr 2020 at 08:05

The i10 will obviously be more economical, but if I had the choice between that and the KIA, I'd take the KIA. How important are the savings? Do the maths and see how much you'll save.

Murf · 3 Apr 2020 at 08:15

[TW]Fox said:
Take the Kia. It isn't going to drink like a fish and your emotional well-being doing such a trip on a regular basis in a half decent car will be far far better than doing it in something really horrible and uncomfortable like that i10.

Don't even do the maths, just use the Kia.

I did this journey (pretty much) a lot and having a nice car to do it in made all the difference.

If even Fox is telling you not to do the maths, don't do the maths. 370 mile round trips will be awful in a small car. Just avoid.

B@Th*nG · 3 Apr 2020 at 08:32

i'm pretty sure the tank in an i10 is like 30L as well, you'll be filling it up after every journey. We seem to be forever in the garage with my partner's.

B@

sovietspybob · 3 Apr 2020 at 08:35

Yeah the kia, don't even bother thinking about it in the i10

Fusion · 3 Apr 2020 at 08:51

Weight doesn’t matter so much when you’re travelling at a constant speed, hence why big saloons can still get over 50mpg on a run. You’ll get more than that 36.8mpg on a long distance journey, I’d have thought.

2004typer · 3 Apr 2020 at 08:59

Fusion said:
Weight doesn’t matter so much when you’re travelling at a constant speed, hence why big saloons can still get over 50mpg on a run. You’ll get more than that 36.8mpg on a long distance journey, I’d have thought.

I'd agree - you should be in the mid to high 40's I'd think easily as long as you are not tanking it along.

Ryan-3 · 3 Apr 2020 at 09:27

I'd say do one run in each, then you'll leave the i10 with the wife forever.

Nasher · 3 Apr 2020 at 10:34

Fusion said:
Weight doesn’t matter so much when you’re travelling at a constant speed, hence why big saloons can still get over 50mpg on a run. You’ll get more than that 36.8mpg on a long distance journey, I’d have thought.

Until you get to a hill or a headwind

coupe69 · 3 Apr 2020 at 11:25

Nasher said:
Until you get to a hill or a headwind

Would you recommend he goes in the i10 then?

[TW]Fox · 3 Apr 2020 at 11:27

Nasher said:
Until you get to a hill or a headwind

I routinely get 50mpg on long runs from a 1700kg car.

Simon · 3 Apr 2020 at 11:29

Nasher said:
Until you get to a hill or a headwind

How does weight get impacted by wind ?

ezekial · 3 Apr 2020 at 12:00

If he has access to both, he can do us a favour and do it once with each and calculate the MPG by brimming the tank and then we can see who is right